Exp loss on death topics are getting out of hand.

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

A game blatantly disrespecting the player's time as PoE 2 does atm is completely unacceptable in the year 2025 lmao

Is something of a user issue and is no way a game design flaw. It's a choice if you want to be better on the games that "you like". The direction of your logic and therefor your reason is what I call regression. Instead of trying to improve yourself, you chose the other way around. You disrespect your own time invested by choosing not improve.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

No, it's the game that's badly designed. That's an objective fact. And if a game is badly designed, I click the uninstall button and never look back. And I'm not the only one who will do this lol

I ain't gonna play this boring chore of an endgame to get 2 steps forward then go 5 steps backwards cus of death penalties that are cringe,outdated,archaic mechanics. I hate having my progression lost even a bit. It's a waste of time and serves 0 purpose, all that time spent getting exp is for nothing then. I played for nothing. And do you know what that makes people do? It makes them quit the game. That is the game's fault then for making them quit and not being fun.

This game right now is a bad hamster wheel of death penalties coupled with a non-existant "crafting" system that's just a badly disguised gacha.


It's not that people "don't want to improve". It's that the game never gives them that chance, so they leave because they respect their own free time. Quite simple.

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

You mean your opinionated fact? Whatever even that means. Yes sure, keep doing what you're doing and I'll continue farming. I started this thread lvl95 99% and now, 96 77%. I'll occasionally visit you on this thread to see how you're doing.

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AngryGekko#0233 wrote:

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

A game blatantly disrespecting the player's time as PoE 2 does atm is completely unacceptable in the year 2025 lmao

Is something of a user issue and is no way a game design flaw. It's a choice if you want to be better on the games that "you like". The direction of your logic and therefor your reason is what I call regression. Instead of trying to improve yourself, you chose the other way around. You disrespect your own time invested by choosing not improve.

You're not providing any useful argument on the topic of exp loss, but constant personal insults. It would be better for anyone if you could provide convincing arguments instead of being obsessed by a person disagreeing to you.

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AngryGekko#0233 wrote:

This is what Bobby Kotick would do. With PoE2 Chris Wilson just went full Kotick. And you never go full Kotick. Cause this is contrary to a community driven entitlement.

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

You mean your opinionated fact? Whatever even that means. Yes sure, keep doing what you're doing and I'll continue farming. I started this thread lvl95 99% and now, 96 77%. I'll occasionally visit you on this thread to see how you're doing.

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

Do you even know Chris Wilson that well to even say this things?

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AngryGekko#0233 wrote:

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

You mean your opinionated fact? Whatever even that means. Yes sure, keep doing what you're doing and I'll continue farming. I started this thread lvl95 99% and now, 96 77%. I'll occasionally visit you on this thread to see how you're doing.

I think, there's actually a lot of PoE1 gamers like you, enjoying playing PoE 1 or 2 as an entrenched habit. You know the odds, you know the game. You have been the niche of PoE1 and you had fun with the game being the way it was and still is. But: You know and i know that endgame is the true heart of PoE. Most reviewers on Steam didn't even reach endgame. They didn't even reach level 70 to experience exp loss.

So, i'm not convinced of people writing positive reviews on a game they barely know. If those players will never reach endgame, they will not contribute to the f2p spirit of buying mtx. That needs players who spend a LOT of time in the game. And exp loss is an artificial barrier of NO USE in motivating people to carry on gaming. As i said: it made me LEAVE. Years ago.

Since the tools Wilson uses to stretch playtime no matter what, it would be way more thoughtful of you, reflecting if those tools (bigger maps, no loot, casino crafting, exp loss and so on) are really in YOUR sense. Because when getting through with that 'vision' YOUR playtime has rendered less rewarding. Now, as the game is in early access, it would be more helpful if even alltime PoE gamers like you would resist to the idea of putting playtime metrics over fun. It would be in YOUR interest.

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

I am not providing any useful argument? Or you mean you do not consider my argument because you don't like it? I mean, you CAN scroll back and check what I have posted. Now its up to you if you "consider" those useful.

Did you provide any useful feedback aside from

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AngryGekko#0233 wrote:

This is what Bobby Kotick would do. With PoE2 Chris Wilson just went full Kotick. And you never go full Kotick. Cause this is contrary to a community driven entitlement.

Do you even know Chris Wilson that well to even say this things?

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

If you are not having fun, why are you even here?

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AngryGekko#0233 wrote:

Did you even UNDERSTAND what i meant by saying you're contributing no arguments but personal insults? Because you're now personally insulting ME without giving arguments to the topics of the discussion.

Every posting i wrote in here was giving arguments. And i still can't find you providing any. You're asking me if i know Chris Wilson as if his obesession with player metrics is not rock solid given the vast emptiness of PoE2. When Diablo 4 came out, there was a sh!tstorm when Blizzard tried to stretch the portal animation for another second to lengthen playtime. It's exactly this spirit that's all over PoE2.

Now, try an argument and not another insult, stay with me on facts.