Exp loss on death topics are getting out of hand.

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MrPedez#4934 wrote:

Seems like poe 1 did very well maintaing a healthy playerbase without removing xp loss or giving handouts to cry babies.
Unfortunately they dont teach kids consequences these days and it shows, luckily GGG is know to prioritize the game and their visions over quantity and more money unlike Blizzard does these days

Nope, I think you'll find you will be very disappointed with some of the changes that will be made in order for the game to not die. This is simple numbers and how the business model of this game works, I'm sorry but only a minority of players wants some kind of cbt-simulator brutal game that punishes you every 2 seconds. That is objectively not fun. This game is gonna need more than 6 months of EA for sure to fix most of the big problems, otherwise it's gonna be dead in a few leagues after launch lol


And please stop insulting people and calling them names, this is a feedback forum.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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MrPedez#4934 wrote:

Seems like poe 1 did very well maintaing a healthy playerbase without removing xp loss or giving handouts to cry babies.
Unfortunately they dont teach kids consequences these days and it shows, luckily GGG is know to prioritize the game and their visions over quantity and more money unlike Blizzard does these days

Nope, I think you'll find you will be very disappointed with some of the changes that will be made in order for the game to not die. This is simple numbers and how the business model of this game works, I'm sorry but only a minority of players wants some kind of cbt-simulator brutal game that punishes you every 2 seconds. That is objectively not fun. This game is gonna need more than 6 months of EA for sure to fix most of the big problems, otherwise it's gonna be dead in a few leagues after launch lol


And please stop insulting people and calling them names, this is a feedback forum.

And u are not providing feedback but keep crying about the same bs over and over. And im not gonna be disappointed about the changes cause i know GGG pretty well since i have been part of this community since poe 1 released and i know if they change anything its because its needed and not because they want more money or satisfy casuals crying over xp loss. Im fully confident that GGG will do a great job at balancing this game and adding content cause they have shown over many years that they are both dedicated and capable of doing so

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MrPedez#4934 wrote:

And u are not providing feedback but keep crying about the same bs over and over. And im not gonna be disappointed about the changes cause i know GGG pretty well since i have been part of this community since poe 1 released and i know if they change anything its because its needed and not because they want more money or satisfy casuals crying over xp loss. Im fully confident that GGG will do a great job at balancing this game and adding content cause they have shown over many years that they are both dedicated and capable of doing so

Again, your own play pattern disproves your defence for the exp-penalty. Cause without it, you'd damn sure would have had many more lvl 100 than you do now.

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MrPedez#4934 wrote:

And u are not providing feedback but keep crying about the same bs over and over. And im not gonna be disappointed about the changes cause i know GGG pretty well since i have been part of this community since poe 1 released and i know if they change anything its because its needed and not because they want more money or satisfy casuals crying over xp loss. Im fully confident that GGG will do a great job at balancing this game and adding content cause they have shown over many years that they are both dedicated and capable of doing so

Nope, they're gonna make changes based on the majority of valid feedback from so many players. They've shown that philosophies can change like with the Currency Exchange.

The majority of players want their 6 portals back, and are tired of exp loss. That's just a simple fact. If too many people quit, the game will just die because not enough money will be made to sustain it. This is what feedback forums are for, for players to give their experience and opinions of the game and ask for changes. This is what Early Access exists for, the game will be very different by the time it releases. Not to mention everything else making this game a boring slog lmao

There's a lot of work to be done and a lot that needs to change, but I trust in GGG and believe they will extend EA to 1 year if they have to. In order to make the necessary changes so that this game can actually be a fun one. We've seen all the qol they're capable of putting into PoE 1, so I'm sure they'll listen to the majority of the feedback about the biggest problems in this game.


Any feedback is valuable, so no need to dismiss it as "crying".

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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MrPedez#4934 wrote:

Seems like poe 1 did very well maintaing a healthy playerbase without removing xp loss or giving handouts to cry babies.
Unfortunately they dont teach kids consequences these days and it shows, luckily GGG is know to prioritize the game and their visions over quantity and more money unlike Blizzard does these days

Nope, I think you'll find you will be very disappointed with some of the changes that will be made in order for the game to not die. This is simple numbers and how the business model of this game works, I'm sorry but only a minority of players wants some kind of cbt-simulator brutal game that punishes you every 2 seconds. That is objectively not fun. This game is gonna need more than 6 months of EA for sure to fix most of the big problems, otherwise it's gonna be dead in a few leagues after launch lol


And please stop insulting people and calling them names, this is a feedback forum.

you know nothing. nothing about the numbers, nothing about what minority or majority wants, and nothing about ggg's vision for their game. there where crybabies for the last 10 years that wanted xp loss to go, and its still there. and you know nothing about what will happen in a few leagues after launch. so pls do us all a favour and stop talking about your glorious future predictions.

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Pl4t1numX#4325 wrote:

you know nothing. nothing about the numbers, nothing about what minority or majority wants, and nothing about ggg's vision for their game. there where crybabies for the last 10 years that wanted xp loss to go, and its still there. and you know nothing about what will happen in a few leagues after launch. so pls do us all a favour and stop talking about your glorious future predictions.

Sure, the steam numbers will say it all in a few weeks if nothing changes.

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mrfox123#7595 wrote:

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MrPedez#4934 wrote:

And u are not providing feedback but keep crying about the same bs over and over. And im not gonna be disappointed about the changes cause i know GGG pretty well since i have been part of this community since poe 1 released and i know if they change anything its because its needed and not because they want more money or satisfy casuals crying over xp loss. Im fully confident that GGG will do a great job at balancing this game and adding content cause they have shown over many years that they are both dedicated and capable of doing so

Again, your own play pattern disproves your defence for the exp-penalty. Cause without it, you'd damn sure would have had many more lvl 100 than you do now.

Like i already said in an ealier post im not obsessed with lvl 100 at all, most chars are pretty maxed out around lvl 90-92 ish and this is usually when i want to try a different build. Not because its bad but simply because i like making new chars and experiment with different builds, im not the one build per league type and lvl 100 is not at all needed but sometimes i do it anyway

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MrPedez#4934 wrote:

Like i already said in an ealier post im not obsessed with lvl 100 at all, most chars are pretty maxed out around lvl 90-92 ish and this is usually when i want to try a different build. Not because its bad but simply because i like making new chars and experiment with different builds, im not the one build per league type and lvl 100 is not at all needed but sometimes i do it anyway

Then why do you care if exp loss is removed? It doesn't affect your gameplay at all. Why defend it? Why even comment on threads like this? Makes 0 sense.

Just let other players have what they want and play the game how they want. It will never affect you.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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MrPedez#4934 wrote:

Like i already said in an ealier post im not obsessed with lvl 100 at all, most chars are pretty maxed out around lvl 90-92 ish and this is usually when i want to try a different build. Not because its bad but simply because i like making new chars and experiment with different builds, im not the one build per league type and lvl 100 is not at all needed but sometimes i do it anyway

Then why do you care if exp loss is removed? It doesn't affect your gameplay at all. Why defend it? Why even comment on threads like this? Makes 0 sense.

Just let other players have what they want and play the game how they want. It will never affect you.

the whole game is about risk and reward, same as poe1. risk vs reward. you want the risk to be removed while getting the rewards. thats not how it works. if you want a level up, do more for it then dying constantly to maps.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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Pl4t1numX#4325 wrote:

you know nothing. nothing about the numbers, nothing about what minority or majority wants, and nothing about ggg's vision for their game. there where crybabies for the last 10 years that wanted xp loss to go, and its still there. and you know nothing about what will happen in a few leagues after launch. so pls do us all a favour and stop talking about your glorious future predictions.

Sure, the steam numbers will say it all in a few weeks if nothing changes.

Steam numbers dont tell the full story. Its always dropping after a month of releasing a new league, in fact thats perfectly normal and right now many people including myself are just waiting for GGG devs to come back from holiday and start working at some of the real issues and xp loss on death is probably gonna stay cause its a core design feature and needs to stay. As soon as game is patched and i know which skills gets the nerf hammer im ready to start a new char, not because i need it and my titan is already doing tier 18+ just fine but because i enjoy the process of making a char and see how it progresses