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AdeptusEnginus#0665 wrote:

They said pre-EA that they were going to be focused on nerfing anything that becomes excessively powerful during the EA period.

I 100% agree they should be handing out respecs and its shit that they haven't yet, but people should be expecting any builds they make that could be deemed "meta" to be eating the bat at some point.

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bewilder2#0356 wrote:

So then next it will be minion builds that will be gutted, because at some point it has the same "automated" style with "Cast on X" archetype.

Next will be Deadeye because it has 2 buttons playstyle that can insta-skip pinnacle bosses, also range character, also have tailwind.

Next will be "Explode Warrior" because it can literally explode a whole screen of monster with just 1 auto attack and instant kill bosses wit hammer of the gods.

Next will be Grenade crossbow build because it sems that, playing with 3-4 different grenades to deal with various situation, then also need to include bolts skills, are still way too strong.

Next will be Quarterstaff build because building around to sustain Charged Staff buff and have another 4 skills to rotate for AoE or Single target and applying ailment for Tempest Bell combo seems still not enough.

What is the line here ? The fact that there were builds that revolving around "Cast on" gems as their main source of damage, and somehow they worked, meant that the gems were intentionally designed to be able to function like that in the first place.

If PoE 2 designed to be much more different, slower, more methodical combat oriented approach than PoE 1, why there are skills gem can scale to absurd amount of power to the point of clearing an entire screen of monsters with just one hit like warbinger armor explode ? or with gas nades ? Why lightning rod + magnetic salvo is allowed to exist when these interaction solve both clear and bosses damage ? WHY THE GAME STILL DESIGNED AROUND AN EXACT COPY OF POE 1 ITEMIZATION AND TRADING ?

Maybe if the cost of respecing is not this high, maybe if we aren't permanently locked with ascendancy and some quest choices, maybe if item crafting is not the same as casino-fest RNG system of PoE 1, people wouldn't just copy paste popular build and just call it a day when something get nerfed like this. Better crafting bench hello ? There wouldn't be a need to give much more loot than we should have right now, if only there is a system that can act as a fail-safe when people are unlucky.

The least you can do is giving free-respec after an obvious huge change on how a gem works, in which players are clearly trying to build around it and having "success" or "fun" in playing it. And you guys at GGG should know it, you guys can't possibly not knowing it right ? RIGHT ?

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DeFeoBoutique#5766 wrote:

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I wanted to quote a lot of the thought out and good responses but the forum won't let me.

Solid points but I think some people are missing a key focus here.

A lot of us played Cast on X because it was something you could do in PoE1 and its has a familiarity, this is important when a lot of other things have changed between the two games.

But PoE2 isn't PoE1 so following a guide is helpful, just like it is in PoE1.

If SCO is pushing Maxroll and Mobalitics and these builds exist there, most people are going to use those builds has they tend to be easier to follow and are more detailed than a stream or YouTube video.

So please stop acting like thousands of players copied the same single "busted" build. I know myself and 2 others both did CoF Comet, different skills and different passive trees.

I would say it was far from busted. I died over 100 times, there were plenty of struggles along the way in just act 3 alone.

But now I cannot even progress in Act 4 (act 1 Cruel) because my build doesn't function remotely the same way.

I agree a 1 to 1 freeze proc was a bit silly, but you also would run out of mana.

Instead of going 100 to 0, they could have added an internal CD on Cost on X gems so it could only proc every X seconds or they could have picked better values for the "Monster Power" equation.

I have no issue with a nerf, I have an issue with no reduced or free respec.

If their intent was to nerf it to the ground and then slowly hotfix it until they are in a more balance state, they could have expressed that.

Grenades seem to be fine after their nerf.

At the end of the day, people paid to get into Early Access. Losing a character and countless hours to a massive nerf feels extremely bad.

Please just consider giving reduced respec, or free, like there has been in PoE1.

Please also consider many of us only have so many hours in the day to play and it isn't easy to reroll another character.

I've enjoyed PoE2 and I plan to continue to play during EA, but please in the future consider our time invested into these characters regardless if we just "copied a busted build" we still had to level, get an uncut skill gem to learn Cast on X, level to 41 for Comet and clear Trials to even pick the ascendancy that feels like it cares about Cast on X skills, especially when there are many Uniques in the game that full convert damage to other elements.

Thank for for coming to my TED talk, I hope to see an update later addressing the Path forward.

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DeFeoBoutique#5766 wrote:

...Only 3 quotes may be embedded within each other...

I wanted to quote a lot of the thought out and good responses but the forum won't let me.

Solid points but I think some people are missing a key focus here.

A lot of us played Cast on X because it was something you could do in PoE1 and its has a familiarity, this is important when a lot of other things have changed between the two games.

But PoE2 isn't PoE1 so following a guide is helpful, just like it is in PoE1.

If SCO is pushing Maxroll and Mobalitics and these builds exist there, most people are going to use those builds as they tend to be easier to follow and are more detailed than a stream or YouTube video.

So please stop acting like thousands of players copied the same single "busted" build. I know myself and 2 others both did CoF Comet, different skills and different passive trees.

I would say it was far from busted. I died over 100 times, there were plenty of struggles along the way in just act 3 alone.

But now I cannot even progress in Act 4 (act 1 Cruel) because my build doesn't function remotely the same way.

I agree a 1 to 1 freeze proc was a bit silly, but you also would run out of mana.

Instead of going 100 to 0, they could have added an internal CD on Cost on X gems so it could only proc every X seconds or they could have picked better values for the "Monster Power" equation.

I have no issue with a nerf, I have an issue with no reduced or free respec.

If their intent was to nerf it to the ground and then slowly hotfix it until they are in a more balance state, they could have expressed that.

Grenades seem to be fine after their nerf.

At the end of the day, people paid to get into Early Access. Losing a character and countless hours to a massive nerf feels extremely bad.

Please just consider giving reduced respec, or free, like there has been in PoE1.

Please also consider many of us only have so many hours in the day to play and it isn't easy to reroll another character.

I've enjoyed PoE2 and I plan to continue to play during EA, but please in the future consider our time invested into these characters regardless if we just "copied a busted build" we still had to level, get an uncut skill gem to learn Cast on X, level to 41 for Comet and clear Trials to even pick the ascendancy that feels like it cares about Cast on X skills, especially when there are many Uniques in the game that full convert damage to other elements.

Thank for for coming to my TED talk, I hope to see an update later addressing the Path forward.