POE2 isn't "Hard." It's unfun.

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esostaks#6761 wrote:

God bless devs that they spared PoE 1 of this fate and split it into two separate games. Otherwise it would be a tragedy seeing one of my favorite games of all time to amount to something like this. Happy for people who like it. I definitely know which one I'm sticking to. It seems that devs have greatly surpassed my every single concern that I had about PoE 2 before EA and even found new ways to surprise me. At this point even D4 seems more fun even though I'm a big critic of that game, and I feel like this is objectively the worst ARPG I've played in my life in terms of fun and enjoyment, and it is extremely lacking in every aspect that makes ARPG genre fun for me.

Oh, boy! My thougts, exactly!
I totally agree with you. I'm so grateful that Path of Exile has remained untouched by their "vision" of the New Forever Game.

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Smurfzilla1#1633 wrote:

The Cast on nerf sucks. It bricked 2 of my toons. I took a week off. I have no gold. Can i have your gold before you uninstall? I like punishment, ima keep playing.

That's what you get for calling characters "toons"
As soon as you stop doing that, GGG will buff them again

I play with mouse and keyboard, even when I have a gaming pad. I found myself not able to continuously play for long period of time as all these key pressing/dodging gives me RSI.

The thing I hate most:
1. Monsters respawn after you die, even when you had cleared 99% of it before.
2. Many monster mods/abilities are from POE 1, which is not suitable for POE 2 due to lack of "escape" mechanism, especially large area of attack stuff.
3. The one support gem support limit resticts build freedom.
4. Ascendency utilises the most unpopular mechanics of POE 1 which baffles the mind.

I am starting Act 2 but already finding it a chore to play, back to POE 1 I guess.

Hope it improves at release.

I think I died to act 1 boss 20 times. And Act 2 boss took me over 50 tries. I had to play like 6hrs before I could kill act 2 boss. After that I died a couple times until having to do all the acts on next difficulty. I only died a handful of times all the way up to maps. I played a Sorc.

The first 2 acts were so difficult I thought I would never get to maps.

I am not sure POE2 is 100% sure what kind of game it wants to be. Dying once in Maps, you lose the map? What?!?! In a game with a crap ton of one-tap mechanics, no movement skills, a terrible roll mechanic you can't die at all in a map otherwise you lose the map and your progress getting to that map? WTF is that....On top of that at a certain point you lose what, 15% experience each death? Not sure why but GGG seems to have mixed up difficult with punishing and they can absolutely be exclusive of one another...

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dylan33#3435 wrote:

They made the game extremely tedious and frustrating, yet still made the loot complete garbage and unrewarding. That's a very bad combination. This game is gonna be a complete flop, once people start getting to maps and realize how unfun it is, the player count is going to nose dive. I hit level 70 on my character and wanna try something else but cant bring myself to do this awful campaign slog again. I'll come check the game back out during 1.0 official release I guess and hope things dramatically improve.

Im not trying to be a hater, I loved PoE1 and it's one of my favorite games of all time. Unfortunately PoE2 is just not it.

i got to mapping and then growen tired of this slog. went back home to poe 1.

POE isn't hard it's punishing.

Every boss boils down to pattern recognition and muscle memory so once you have a general idea of what you are doing the challenge falls off a lot.

However, learning and dying (especially beyond the campaign) costing you map bonuses is an unfun punishment.

There is no good reason to be as punishing as the game is in most cases, nothing for the player is gained from this. There is hardcore for those who want to play to be punished and there is core for those who just want to have fun playing an aRPG.

Outside of this however the game really is kinda boring. The campaign takes a LOT out of you, especially if you've leveled multiple classes. The maps are way to big and empty and the acts drag on, only made worse by having to repeat run A1-3 over while we wait for A4-6 to come.

The currency drop rate is still terrible, especially during campaign. I just finished a 2nd campaign run on a Ranger and I got a total of 6 ex the entire time. 6.

When you need 3 for every item to take it to max (I know it's waste, just as an example) what the hell good is 6 across a 20 hour campaign? You are forced to rely on drops (or checking the vendor each level), not on the crafting system which is boring.

Maybe they could add in exalted shards that are a much higher drop rate but only work for gear below lvl 70 or something to make having fun while crafting still a thing.

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idrankyourbeer#1700 wrote:

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dylan33#3435 wrote:

They made the game extremely tedious and frustrating, yet still made the loot complete garbage and unrewarding. That's a very bad combination. This game is gonna be a complete flop, once people start getting to maps and realize how unfun it is, the player count is going to nose dive. I hit level 70 on my character and wanna try something else but cant bring myself to do this awful campaign slog again. I'll come check the game back out during 1.0 official release I guess and hope things dramatically improve.

Im not trying to be a hater, I loved PoE1 and it's one of my favorite games of all time. Unfortunately PoE2 is just not it.

i got to mapping and then growen tired of this slog. went back home to poe 1.

Yeah everyone's going back to poe1.

Poe2 steam players: 500k
Poe1 steam players: 13k

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5Spooky3Me#5140 wrote:

I've got to disagree. PoE2 is the first ARPG I've ever played that wasn't just mindlessly spamming the same ability over and over. Having to display a little mechanical skill outside of the skill tree to kill something is like breath of fresh air. Luckily, PoE1 is going to be supported for the foreseeable future.

We are mindlessly spamming dodge roll over and over. wtf you on about?