General Discussion - POE 2 early access paywall - Forum

dont forget, we're not only paying for early access, we're paying to be BETA TESTERS for the game lol. and once the game is out, our characters/stash will be put in an "offline only" state where we still can continue playing with what we have but would encourage us to abandon them for the proper release. [Removed by Support]	Posted by exsea#1724 on Nov 27, 2024, 12:28:42 AM Quote this Post
" ladish#6213 wrote: You aren't wrong I guess. I'm just a bit sick of the double standard of views on "triple A" games that charge/price gouge up the wazoo, bait-and-switch, play on FOMO, hype nothing burgers and release unfinished products at full retail cost. But then on the other side of the coin GGG charge a nominal fee for early access and oh boy hold your horses time to call the riot police because "it's a sleazy ploy for a game that's supposedly F2P" (as if F2P means nobody is going to pay anything and the company is a charity or something). Unethical isn't unethical If someone did something worse? Let's just say GGG is no angel.	Posted by awesome999#2945 on Nov 27, 2024, 12:29:14 AM Quote this Post
" awesome999#2945 wrote: " ladish#6213 wrote: You aren't wrong I guess. I'm just a bit sick of the double standard of views on "triple A" games that charge/price gouge up the wazoo, bait-and-switch, play on FOMO, hype nothing burgers and release unfinished products at full retail cost. But then on the other side of the coin GGG charge a nominal fee for early access and oh boy hold your horses time to call the riot police because "it's a sleazy ploy for a game that's supposedly F2P" (as if F2P means nobody is going to pay anything and the company is a charity or something). Unethical isn't unethical If someone did something worse? Let's just say GGG is no angel. The only thing GGG have done I'm aware of and consider "predatory" in the last decade was the original mystery boxes that people legit spent hundreds of dollars on because they were indirectly encouraging gambling of real money. Well they changed them to be "no duplicate items" years ago which means they are still a waste of money (imo) but at least somewhat deterministic. Outside of this, please do give us some details of what you mean about them being unethical? Last edited by ladish#6213 on Nov 27, 2024, 12:43:02 AM	Posted by ladish#6213 on Nov 27, 2024, 12:41:25 AM Quote this Post
Requiring profits to run a business = unethical .. duh	Posted by AlvinL_#4492 on Nov 27, 2024, 12:43:56 AM Quote this Post
If it is ok to milk your fans for money then you shouldn't complain when other companies are doing it. Simple	Posted by Johny_Snow#4778 on Nov 27, 2024, 12:46:04 AM Quote this Post
" Johny_Snow#4778 wrote: Can't post opinions here now? What, are you afraid you'll get a bad case of buyer's remorse or something? You can. You just can't expect others to not have an opinion about that and voice it. Bird lover of Wraeclast Las estrellas te iluminan - Hoy te sirven de guía Te sientes tan fuerte que piensas - que nadie te puede tocar	Posted by Mikrotherion#4706 on Nov 27, 2024, 12:46:05 AM Quote this Post
" Johny_Snow#4778 wrote: I am not paying them shit, I've already given them enough. Surprised how many people support this crap just cuz "game is good". They'd be right there in the trenches bashing any other AAA game developer who tried this If you did you would get a key for free, apearently its not enough. People dont have problem with EA but all the shady bs around it like fully functional, constantly updated p2w item shop or 20 different tiers with various in game bonuses etc. GGG earned the trust. " Johny_Snow#4778 wrote: Can't post opinions here now? What, are you afraid you'll get a bad case of buyer's remorse or something? You sure can but expect to be called out on stupidity.	Posted by kuciol#0426 on Nov 27, 2024, 12:47:14 AM Quote this Post
" Mikrotherion#4706 wrote: " Johny_Snow#4778 wrote: Can't post opinions here now? What, are you afraid you'll get a bad case of buyer's remorse or something? You can. You just can't expect others to not have an opinion about that and voice it. He told me to STOP. He was trying to silence my opinion. This is different.	Posted by Johny_Snow#4778 on Nov 27, 2024, 12:47:31 AM Quote this Post
ehh... Just vote with the wallet... If you don't like the idea just wait for main release. If you like buy and enjoy:) I don't mind paying that 30$ even for the beta testing - because it is fun to me. And really? That big of a deal for 30$, in reality 1 maybe 2 visits in cinema which gives like 3 hours max of fun cost that much... Heck, 2 beers in the club cost probably more:) Every company needs to earn money to pay the bills, and if there is large pool of people who would like to pay that reasonable price to be able to check stuff out earlier and help with feedback, whats wrong with monetising it - its free choice of every player whether to buy or wait Last edited by Stregobor#0215 on Nov 27, 2024, 12:54:06 AM	Posted by Stregobor#0215 on Nov 27, 2024, 12:52:42 AM Quote this Post
" Stregobor#0215 wrote: ehh... Just vote with the wallet... If you don't like the idea just wait for main release. If you like buy and enjoy:) I don't mind paying that 30$ even for the beta testing - because it is fun to me. And really? That big of a deal for 30$, in reality 1 maybe 2 visits in cinema which gives like 3 hours max of fun cost that much... Heck, 2 beers in the club cost probably more:) Every company needs to earn money to pay the bills, and if there is large pool of people who would like to pay that reasonable price to be able to check stuff out earlier and help with feedback, whats wrong with monetising it - its free choice of every player whether to buy or wait That strategy don't work. Other people vote with their wallets too. That is Why "free to play" game are here to stay while many people hate it. You will most definitely lose. Will not paying for early access change these video game companies behaviours? It doesn't appear to change anything.	Posted by awesome999#2945 on Nov 27, 2024, 1:25:38 AM Quote this Post