Just make POE 2 not gender locked, simple.

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Thraesh wrote:

What gender a pixelated character is has no weight or bearing on whether a game is good or not.

No, but they do impact how your game is perceived. Inclusivity is a thing, seriously. Google "inclusivity in video games" and see for yourself. This is why a lot of these pro gender-lock comments make zero sense. We have proof of the opposite.

GGG wants to break the 1M player mark. They are not gonna do that if they don't try and appeal to a broader audience. Part of that is more inclusivity in games.

Look at Baldur's Gate 3 and what a smashing success it was. Inclusivity played a big part in that, too, because everyone could identify with their characters. There are literally dozens upon dozens of posts on various forums that specifically talk about this and how it affected them IRL.

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BaumisMagicalWorld wrote:

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Thraesh wrote:

What gender a pixelated character is has no weight or bearing on whether a game is good or not.

No, but they do impact how your game is perceived. Inclusivity is a thing, seriously. Google "inclusivity in video games" and see for yourself. This is why a lot of these pro gender-lock comments make zero sense. We have proof of the opposite.

GGG wants to break the 1M player mark. They are not gonna do that if they don't try and appeal to a broader audience. Part of that is more inclusivity in games.

Look at Baldur's Gate 3 and what a smashing success it was. Inclusivity played a big part in that, too, because everyone could identify with their characters. There are literally dozens upon dozens of posts on various forums that specifically talk about this and how it affected them IRL.

Inclusivity is a thing, but it isn't the only thing, let alone the only thing that matters. And Path of Exile is not a heavily story-driven RPG like Baldur's Gate 3, where the player is expected to express themselves through hundreds of dialogue and relationship choices. Baldur's Gate 3 needed to be inclusive to work because the player's in-game identity was the gameplay there; Path of Exile is just about killing lots and lots of monsters. You're comparing pumpkins to oranges, here, and it's not a convincing argument.

I wanna play a Ranger who identifies as a Marauder. Hard /s

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Waitubold wrote:

Path of Exile is just about killing lots and lots of monsters. You're comparing pumpkins to oranges, here, and it's not a convincing argument.

Right. And why would cosmetics matter this much to us, then? They are literally the driving force keeping this game alive. That does make it seem like visual identity is pretty important, doesn't it.

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BaumisMagicalWorld wrote:

Right. And why would cosmetics matter this much to us, then? They are literally the driving force keeping this game alive. That does make it seem like visual identity is pretty important, doesn't it.

If its like Poe 1 you want actually see any difference in gender with most armor MTX. Only move-sets. So your visual importance is mostly a move-set and not the body type you prefer. And well maybe those sweet voices: "I don't have mana/space/motivation for that". Also thank you for acknowledging that your baldurs gate reference doesn't make much sense.

And gender locked games with more then 1 mil players? they exist, because contrary to your beliefs, gender inklusivity is not that big of a deal.

And if GGG decides to sell alternative genders for the classes, thats fine too. But this will take work and time, so lets wait and see.

Not a priority for any serious developer.

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tsunamikun wrote:

because contrary to your beliefs, gender inklusivity is not that big of a deal.

Except I already covered that. We have proof of the opposite, so please stop making up narratives and fake facts. You can easily verify what I said and at the same time dispute your very own claims, but you are not going to do that, are you.

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BaumisMagicalWorld wrote:

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tsunamikun wrote:

because contrary to your beliefs, gender inklusivity is not that big of a deal.

Except I already covered that. We have proof of the opposite, so please stop making up narratives and fake facts. You can easily verify what I said and at the same time dispute your very own claims, but you are not going to do that, are you.

Your proof of the opposite is 'literally dozens upon dozens' of posts. A drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things.

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BaumisMagicalWorld wrote:

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tsunamikun wrote:

because contrary to your beliefs, gender inklusivity is not that big of a deal.

Except I already covered that. We have proof of the opposite, so please stop making up narratives and fake facts. You can easily verify what I said and at the same time dispute your very own claims, but you are not going to do that, are you.

No you assumed that. There are no actually number to be found anywhere to support your narrative. There is no proof. Most things you find are some advertisements with some sociology papers with negligible data. So nope outside of some EU/US based publishers nobody really cares. Just looking at the top games per players on steam, first person shooters and third person mobas(with locked in gender per avatar).

But maybe my google Fu is bad, so please provide the links to those sweets statistics, scientific papers and what else you belief will provide "proof".
And no, your inclusivity in games mainly produces advertisements like this:

https://usv.edu/blog/the-importance-of-diversity-and-inclusion-in-gaming/ (no data just some blog entry) or actually inclusivity of people with disabilities (which has a lot more to do with HMIs and nothing to do with gender) like https://ablegamers.org/why-inclusive-gaming-matters/

So nope, i tried to verify "what you said" but couldn't. Did you mean facts like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1fywyst/over_95_of_players_dont_consider_inclusivity/ lol

And before you willfully misinterpret that, that not really data, same as your "proof"

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RandallPOE wrote:

Your proof of the opposite is 'literally dozens upon dozens' of posts. A drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things.

Err, no. Literally do what I actually said and don't just take snippets out of context.