From what we've seen so far, do you feel you're going to stay with PoE1 or move to PoE2?

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xBerkshire#0953 wrote:

There is no doubt that my desire is to remain in POE 1, but with an annual league that is currently reality I will not play Poe 1 or 2 but another game.

Yeah, Monster Hunter Wilds it is. Easily 2-3k hours grind ahead with monthly updated content.

When GGG launches a new league I would play it, but PoE2 is so far off from what I consider to be fun or enjoyable that I doubt it will be ever a game I like.

for me , here is the plan : POE 1 forever and poe 2 as filler between leagues.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

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1453R wrote:

To be fair, your stance for most of this thread has been that Path of Exile 2 is a mistake

Well, then I suggest you start reading the actual words that were written, and not making up your own interpretations thereof. Because what I described as "a mistake" was their plan to try and maintain two different player bases and two different games at the same time. Big difference in context.

Big oof. Looks like all the nay-sayers were right after all. Maybe this one will finally get you to respond and acknowledge you were wrong and arguing for no reason. Or do I have to quote all of them? At least you got to be sarcastic for several pages. I never forget.

PoE 2? No. It's plainly bad.

Poe 1? Sometimes, maybe.

I am in D4 now and having fun. (D4 BAD)

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

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1453R wrote:

To be fair, your stance for most of this thread has been that Path of Exile 2 is a mistake

Well, then I suggest you start reading the actual words that were written, and not making up your own interpretations thereof. Because what I described as "a mistake" was their plan to try and maintain two different player bases and two different games at the same time. Big difference in context.

Big oof. Looks like all the nay-sayers were right after all. Maybe this one will finally get you to respond and acknowledge you were wrong and arguing for no reason. Or do I have to quote all of them? At least you got to be sarcastic for several pages. I never forget.

I don't know what those arguments were about, but I will say that I still don't think their plan to try and maintain two different games at the same time was a mistake.

You see, calling it a mistake implies it could never work. Them not having figured out how to do it yet is absolutely not a sign that it could never work. Keep in mind PoE2 is not a finished game, but at some point it will be. Making expansions for finished games is a completely different thing to making a new game from scratch.

Maybe they won't be able to support both of them in the long run, but it's literally way too early to draw any conclusions about that. Even if you end up being right in the end, that isn't because you "knew all along", it's because your speculations were right. Because that's all anyone can do right now, including GGG: speculate.

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MarsAstro#7928 wrote:

Them not having figured out how to do it yet is absolutely not a sign that it could never work.

Fair point, granted they can actually pull it off. I had my doubts and still do. That, to me, still looks like a mistake, but we'll see. And I do prefer to be proven wrong, because I actually like PoE (most of the time). I just can't stand it when someone keeps grinding my gears (pun intended) with the intent to piss me off, simply because they want to feel right. It was never about that, I just don't like it when my intelligence is being attacked for things I never said.

Would love to stay with PoE2, but the endgame.... man, the disappointment. The campaign was great, had more fun with it than with PoE1 in a long time but the endgame is somehow more boring than playing PoE1 in standard.

all what they achieved here is to split their community into 2 groups not a smart move and obviously i as a long time poe 1 player will not support a downgrade.

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Hornsent#1110 wrote:

Poe1
Everything about Poe2 so far is anti-hype and anti-excitement, literally Ruthless 2.0, when barely anyone care about Ruthless 1.0

I like the visual design of Poe2, so will play for 1-2 times, but if it stays slow and boring, I'll not grind it as much as I grind Poe1.

You sir ve no idea about ruthless dont you dare compare ruthless to POE2. Thats an insult to ruthless. POE2 has nothing what comes close to ruthless even exp is a cackewalk in poe2. It takes nearly 4 months to achieve lv 100 not like 6 weeks in the downgrade poe2! Maybe play ruthless a bit before you talk about ruthless.

PoE2 is a shadow of PoE1, there's no world where anyone enjoying PoE1 can be long-term happy with the state of PoE2. Chris Wilson said it in an interview a long time back (or was it one of the others? I don't remember) - it would be suicide to release a game ostensibly filling the same niche but ignoring a decade of content behind the first iteration, and low and behold, here we are.

I want PoE2 to be good, but it's not. It's bad. It's really bad. It's ignoring a decade of development mistakes to remake them again bad. I sat through that pony show the first time - it was a fun ride, but I've done it now - I know why things were the way they were, and so should the devs. But, because their egos make them think otherwise, PoE2 was forced to start in a position that PoE1 was in back then, and now will slowly (but so very, very surely) converge on where PoE1 is now, because there are reasons why PoE1 took the track it took.

It's like they took a stone to the top of a hill, rolled it down the hill, saw what happened... then got a bigger stone and struggled to the top of the hill again. It's still a stone, and it's going to roll down the hill exactly the same. It might take a slightly different path, and it might end up a meter left or right here or there, and it might be faster or slower, but the general shape and end result will be the same, because they follow the same basic rules and have the same basic pressures affecting them.