[3.25] The Lazy Nova - Archmage MoM Crit Ice Nova of Frostbolts with Svalinn

Hey guys, this is my pob link https://pobb.in/z9fmWXs6Oh0M
I'm level 94, why is my mana so low? only at 4258
I can't sustain the mana during long fights
Anybody know how to fix this?
Thank you so much!!
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alvinharwin wrote:
Hey guys, this is my pob link https://pobb.in/z9fmWXs6Oh0M
I'm level 94, why is my mana so low? only at 4258
I can't sustain the mana during long fights
Anybody know how to fix this?
Thank you so much!!


Hello, thank you for posting your pob. Here are some comments you can consider

* You are missing two mana nodes on the tree. With your next two levels, finish off the Battle Rouse and Dynamo wheels

* Your gear is lacking in good mana rolls. Your wand and gloves both can have massive upgrades in flat mana rolls.

* Please note that your version of the build will always have lower mana because you are using Ralakesh and Badge of the Brotherhood which means you are losing flat mana rolls from both your boots and amulet.

* Mana sustain on your version is more difficult than the version we use in this thread. I don't play your version so hopefully some one else who does may be able to chime in and help you with mana regen.
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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:
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alvinharwin wrote:
Hey guys, this is my pob link https://pobb.in/z9fmWXs6Oh0M
I'm level 94, why is my mana so low? only at 4258
I can't sustain the mana during long fights
Anybody know how to fix this?
Thank you so much!!


Hello, thank you for posting your pob. Here are some comments you can consider

* You are missing two mana nodes on the tree. With your next two levels, finish off the Battle Rouse and Dynamo wheels

* Your gear is lacking in good mana rolls. Your wand and gloves both can have massive upgrades in flat mana rolls.

* Please note that your version of the build will always have lower mana because you are using Ralakesh and Badge of the Brotherhood which means you are losing flat mana rolls from both your boots and amulet.

* Mana sustain on your version is more difficult than the version we use in this thread. I don't play your version so hopefully some one else who does may be able to chime in and help you with mana regen.


Thank you for answering!
*Is it the mana node in the middle of Mystic Bulwark and Prodigal Perfection?

*Can I roll the wand and gloves flat mana roll higher without changing other stats? And what should I use in order to do that?
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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

*For mana sustain, it looks like you have left off the recommended tree path to Arcane Will.

*You can experiment with changing your amulet anoint to Mind Drinker, which helps sustain mana while mapping (but does very little against single targets)

* Having two Doriyani's Lesson nodes on your large clusters is not efficient as the build caps life leech with only one Doriyani's Lesson

* Crit Immunity typically comes in the form of something like 50% from chest corruption, 30% from Sanctum of Thought (via Impossible Escape) and tattoo's for the rest.

* Your config is missing the Punishment smoother to give a more realistic view of what Punishment does. You can add this if you like:

#Punishment averaged out for low life and non low life
60% Reduced Punishment Curse Effect

* We do not recommend using Power Charge on Crit. You can get significantly more damage from changing this to Intensify and changing the caster mastery to .....+1 to Maximum Intensity. Our build can sustain 4 stacks of Intensity very easily (set this in your config to see the massive difference). We also maintain our power charges through a combination of Disciple of the Forbidden on the tree and Assassins Mark (via quality)

1) Arcane Will looks tempting in exchange for Arcane Potency, but sadly it is 4 vs 3 points, and i can't find anything else to regret.

2) Mind Drinker looks crazy for clearing, will try to get another Badge with same corrupt(to maintain 88%/88% block) to get both(MD for clear,+1Power for bosses), DPS 301kk->275kk, not so bad with possible infinite mana! Maybe Vaal Breach on bosses for extra mana too?

3) thanks a lot for pointing at my useless second Doryani's Lesson, changed Cluster jewel to Scintillating Idea+stats and dropped useless DivineFervour and gained 10% more Mana recoup! will try how it helps now.

4) Started to look for Cloak of Defiance with double corrupt and bought another 1, temporary(as it lowers my DPS) with 150 mana and 50% crit reduce, thanks for reminding me about this corrupt, it will lower alpha damage from nasty posessed monsters on juiced t16-17 maps xD, have no idea what to drop for tree nodes/masteries, eh. but 50% is already a blessing,as i run Solaris pantheon.

5) Added Punishment config. thanks, it bothered me, actually(as with turned off MobLowHP i was not able to notice upgrading Punishment lvl with corrupts, and i invested in that a lot(lvl 25 curses)) but why 60%? i tested it in Excel, it is indeed 50% needed to simulate normalized DPS, no?

6) i run PowerChargeOnCritical only for 32% more DPS (and absolutely zero downsides comparing to other gems PoB offers) as i use Ralakesh boots. Intensity will lower my AoE from 4.5m to 3.6m without mastery(while upgrading DPS by 11%) or to 3.1m with mastery(while upgrading DPS by 23% total), and here i start to wonder if my PoB 8xIceNova counter for FullDPS will be actual.. as i can't understand where my frostbolts will shoot from Kitava's helmet and i am not sure if shotgunning(overlapping) will be the same with such a decrease to radius.

PoB https://pobb.in/SThYX8-szVIb

p.s. thanks a lot for such a detailed and indeed very useful answer! thats a reason why i promote PoE to my friends!
Last edited by twilightdream#4898 on Oct 16, 2024, 6:17:35 PM
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alvinharwin wrote:


Thank you for answering!
*Is it the mana node in the middle of Mystic Bulwark and Prodigal Perfection?

*Can I roll the wand and gloves flat mana roll higher without changing other stats? And what should I use in order to do that?

he means Battle Rouse and Dynamo wheels near SkillTree center(a bit under Scion).
mana on weapon doesn't break anything at all.
https://poedb.tw/us/Wands#ModifiersCalc
https://www.craftofexile.com/?b=18&bi=8082&ob=both&v=d&a=x&l=a&lg=17&bp=y&as=1&hb=0&req={%22696%22:{%22l%22:73,%22g%22:5},%221757%22:{%22l%22:83,%22g%22:4},%221777%22:{%22l%22:81,%22g%22:2},%222305%22:{%22l%22:76,%22g%22:6},%222307%22:{%22l%22:80,%22g%22:3},%222312%22:{%22l%22:84,%22g%22:1}}&bld={}&im={}&ggt=|&ccp={}&gvc={%22limit%22:88}
Last edited by twilightdream#4898 on Oct 16, 2024, 6:16:19 PM
for jewels, is crit multi with lightning skills or with cold skills better? not sure how they interact with frostbolts and archmage. i'm running zealotry over wrath, assuming that makes a slight difference
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twilightdream wrote:
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alvinharwin wrote:


Thank you for answering!
*Is it the mana node in the middle of Mystic Bulwark and Prodigal Perfection?

*Can I roll the wand and gloves flat mana roll higher without changing other stats? And what should I use in order to do that?

he means Battle Rouse and Dynamo wheels near SkillTree center(a bit under Scion).
mana on weapon doesn't break anything at all.
https://poedb.tw/us/Wands#ModifiersCalc
https://www.craftofexile.com/?b=18&bi=8082&ob=both&v=d&a=x&l=a&lg=17&bp=y&as=1&hb=0&req={%22696%22:{%22l%22:73,%22g%22:5},%221757%22:{%22l%22:83,%22g%22:4},%221777%22:{%22l%22:81,%22g%22:2},%222305%22:{%22l%22:76,%22g%22:6},%222307%22:{%22l%22:80,%22g%22:3},%222312%22:{%22l%22:84,%22g%22:1}}&bld={}&im={}&ggt=|&ccp={}&gvc={%22limit%22:88}


Oh! Found it the mana node!
I'm still confused reading those two websites, can i change the max mana stat using orbs or crafting bench?
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twtvguacamully wrote:
for jewels, is crit multi with lightning skills or with cold skills better? not sure how they interact with frostbolts and archmage. i'm running zealotry over wrath, assuming that makes a slight difference


For jewel it's better for crit multi with cold skills since our ice nova is a cold spell. I'm also running zealotry over wrath, I think its better.

Correct me if im wrong!
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twtvguacamully wrote:
for jewels, is crit multi with lightning skills or with cold skills better? not sure how they interact with frostbolts and archmage. i'm running zealotry over wrath, assuming that makes a slight difference


It can be confusing because while Ice Nova is a cold skill, we do almost all lightning damage.

But for your specific question, you have to focus on the skill itself. Ice Nova has a Cold tag, and as such you want to use Crit Multi with Cold Skills and not Crit Multi with Lightning Skills.

Note that you can also get Global Crit Multi, and Crit Mulit with Elemental skills as those will also work with Ice Nova.
Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge#5265 on Oct 16, 2024, 6:39:15 PM
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twilightdream wrote:

1) Arcane Will looks tempting in exchange for Arcane Potency, but sadly it is 4 vs 3 points, and i can't find anything else to regret.

5) Added Punishment config. thanks, it bothered me, actually(as with turned off MobLowHP i was not able to notice upgrading Punishment lvl with corrupts, and i invested in that a lot(lvl 25 curses)) but why 60%? i tested it in Excel, it is indeed 50% needed to simulate normalized DPS, no?

6) i run PowerChargeOnCritical only for 32% more DPS (and absolutely zero downsides comparing to other gems PoB offers) as i use Ralakesh boots. Intensity will lower my AoE from 4.5m to 3.6m without mastery(while upgrading DPS by 11%) or to 3.1m with mastery(while upgrading DPS by 23% total), and here i start to wonder if my PoB 8xIceNova counter for FullDPS will be actual.. as i can't understand where my frostbolts will shoot from Kitava's helmet and i am not sure if shotgunning(overlapping) will be the same with such a decrease to radius.

PoB https://pobb.in/SThYX8-szVIb

p.s. thanks a lot for such a detailed and indeed very useful answer! thats a reason why i promote PoE to my friends!


1) You can drop the middle mana node between Mystic Bulmark and Prodigal Perfection. You will more than make up the lost mana with Arcane Will and the +5 to devotion on the middle mana node is wasted because the Militant faith is based on every 10 devotion you have. Losing the mana node will drop your devotion from 125 to 120 but you will not lose any devotion effects.

5) We use 60% as an approximation. The reason it is not 50/50 is because of time spent while the enemy is under the curse. Let me explain with VERY rough numbers just to explain the concept.

- You curse a monster with Punishment
- For the first half of the monsters health, you get no damage benefit from Punishment. For now, lets say it takes you ~5 seconds to get the monster from 100% health to 50% health.
- Once the monster reaches 50% health, you get the Punishment damage bonus. But this is the key! Now that you have the bonus, you will lower the second half of his life faster than you did the first half of his life. So just for a rough example, lets say this second half takes you 3.5 seconds.

As such, you are not getting a 50/50 split here because of time. The Punishment damage bonus is not "up" 50% of the time. In this case you can see that it will be up less than 50% of the time.

We chose 60% just as a round number to acknowledge that it is never going to be an exact 50 50 split.


6) In our opinion, you will not miss the AOE from using Intensify at all. Almost every one here in the thread has happily moved over to Intensify from PCOC and have not looked back.

However, this is REALLY easy and inexpensive to test out. Just buy a quick 20/20 Intensify gem, and change the mastery and run a few maps. You may find you won't miss the AOE at all. If you don’t like it just switch the gem and mastery back.






Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge#5265 on Oct 16, 2024, 8:05:01 PM

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