[3.25] The Lazy Nova - Archmage MoM Crit Ice Nova of Frostbolts with Svalinn

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Soske wrote:
Is there any way to add mana leech to this build that I'm missing? Even with a 21 Clarity and an Atziri's Foible the regen isn't enough in later Simu rounds. My current PoB https://pobb.in/-vZOQfiDhDGs


Your mana regen is very low in this version and as you have found, it will be very difficult to sustain your mana in things like Ultimatum and Simulacrum.

There is no mana leech in POE for spell based builds.

As suggested above, you could try Mind Drinker to see if that helps on your Amulet.

But in the end with out Cloak of Defiance and with out Arcane Surge Support gem, I am not sure it will be doable in your version of the build even with Mind Drinker.

Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge on Oct 15, 2024, 7:52:24 AM
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This is directed at Andy just because you seem to have become to the defacto expert supporter of the build thread, but anyone with the experience please feel free to chime in.


My build is the dual wand power charge variant of the Ice Nova Archmage. I tried the shield build early league, but didn't commit to getting the block capped and gear correct before swapping back to dual wand (bc I played this last league and was just more familiar with it)

My question is, looking at my current build/gear, do you think it is even worth doing a swap? Is it really that much tankier?

I can do T17's, 40% deli, wisped, nemesis mods, all quant alters with a pretty loose regex already. What I struggle with it juiced rogue exiles, which I would like to try this league.


Path of building online tool is a bit scuffed, will update with a direct link when I'm home tonight, but here's my ninja.

https://poe.ninja/builds/settlers/character/Piousqd/NvrPlayinRangerAgain?type=exp&i=1&search=name%3DNvr






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Piousqd wrote:
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My question is, looking at my current build/gear, do you think it is even worth doing a swap? Is it really that much tankier?




And if you don't think it is worth the swap, happy to have some gear/upgrade feed back.


Current plan is to: (loosely in this order)

1. upgrade Mageblood to a double corrupt. Crit multi + 2nd useful stat and hopefully a higher dex roll.

2. If I can't get a high enough dex roll on new MB, recraft boots on a lower tier evasion/es base, which is currently the source of my dex requirement.

3. Replace corrupted blood rare jewel with one with more crit multi. Currently it is providing required dex and lightning resist.

4. Replace Anathema with a 2nd useful implicit. Current one was providing exactly enough dex to wear boots, but I divined my current MB and can now drop the increased dex %.

5. upgrade Utmost ammy to one with similar stats but also 29%+ spell suppress. (Ideally I will drop some cast speed, maintain ele pen, and gain max ele resist, but this is multiple mirrors) This would let me cap suppress with a tattoo while rolling it off glove implicit, replacing with % ele pen. (this adds additional dex requirement due to tattoo)

6. replace helm with a double corrupt, +1 power charge and something else usefu

7. Rebalance all jewels, working on double corrupt implicits on uniques to cap crit and provide immunities/damage reduc.

Note: Aware of the option to drop anathema and go dual-curse but I think I have too many hurdles to juggle and I'm not sure its worth it.

~would have to make up the resist on my chest
~could swap amulet annoint instead, but concerned about mana regen lost from % regain on kill. At some point planning to test that though.


“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
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Soske wrote:
Is there any way to add mana leech to this build that I'm missing? Even with a 21 Clarity and an Atziri's Foible the regen isn't enough in later Simu rounds. My current PoB https://pobb.in/-vZOQfiDhDGs



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I would suggest dropping your medium cluster jewel and use the points to spec into some more of the mana masteries and the reduced mana cost nodes. You can also get a ring with the % reduced mana cost veiled mod.


I would also suggest replacing your clarity gem with a lvl 1 version. The way archmage scales mana cost with max mana, the flat regen from clarity is a drop in the bucket. (The same goes for the -7 to mana cost of instant spells )You are much better of with the ~500 hp you will get back from the reduced reservation cost.


You can also divine/upgrade your watchers eye to get the % damage recouped as mana up to 20%.
“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
Thanks for the advice. The reason I didn't wanna go Cloak of Defiance is because I can't get nearly enough suppression without a rare chest, and even with one I don't quite hit 100 with The Utmost on. I'll try removing my medium cluster, taking some extra mana masteries and see how it goes.

Edit: Nope, still bad. Gonna try switching off of suppression and Utmost, get a Cloak and hope having no suppress and 75 res is good enough for sims.
Last edited by Soske on Oct 15, 2024, 1:43:35 PM
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Soske wrote:
Thanks for the advice. The reason I didn't wanna go Cloak of Defiance is because I can't get nearly enough suppression without a rare chest, and even with one I don't quite hit 100 with The Utmost on. I'll try removing my medium cluster, taking some extra mana masteries and see how it goes.

Edit: Nope, still bad. Gonna try switching off of suppression and Utmost, get a Cloak and hope having no suppress and 75 res is good enough for sims.


We are running different variants of the build, but I am suppress capped and run Utmost, if you wanna compare passive trees/mana gear. I dont have any mana problems.


I suspect part of the problem though may be that damage recouped as mana is much less effective with the build if blocked attack dont recoup.

I run 30% recoup (10% mana mastery, 20% watchers eye), but also run an extra 10% damage taken from mana before life on my watchers eye.
“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
Last edited by Piousqd on Oct 15, 2024, 2:00:16 PM
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Piousqd wrote:
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This is directed at Andy just because you seem to have become to the defacto expert supporter of the build thread, but anyone with the experience please feel free to chime in.


My build is the dual wand power charge variant of the Ice Nova Archmage. I tried the shield build early league, but didn't commit to getting the block capped and gear correct before swapping back to dual wand (bc I played this last league and was just more familiar with it)

My question is, looking at my current build/gear, do you think it is even worth doing a swap? Is it really that much tankier?

I can do T17's, 40% deli, wisped, nemesis mods, all quant alters with a pretty loose regex already. What I struggle with it juiced rogue exiles, which I would like to try this league.


Path of building online tool is a bit scuffed, will update with a direct link when I'm home tonight, but here's my ninja.

https://poe.ninja/builds/settlers/character/Piousqd/NvrPlayinRangerAgain?type=exp&i=1&search=name%3DNvr


I am not sure it is worth swapping but I can't be 100% sure.

Your max hit stats are excellent. I consider my build to be extremely tanky and my max hits are lower than yours across the board.

My EHP is much much higher than yours but that is only due to blocking. EHP is no where near as good a stat as max hit IMO.

But I don't want to discount max block either. The thread is littered with people who struggled with survivability on the dual wand set up only to find our set up significantly better for survivability.

I have never done any juiced rogue exiles so I can't say whether they are doable or not with the Svalinn set up.

Your list of improvements to your already amazing build looks very solid. For the helmet, you might be able to find a double corrupt that gives you life leech on cold (you have enough cold damage I think to cap life leech), and then that might open up a world of new options for you in the large cluster since Doryiani's Lesson would no longer be needed.
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Piousqd wrote:
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This is directed at Andy just because you seem to have become to the defacto expert supporter of the build thread, but anyone with the experience please feel free to chime in.


My build is the dual wand power charge variant of the Ice Nova Archmage. I tried the shield build early league, but didn't commit to getting the block capped and gear correct before swapping back to dual wand (bc I played this last league and was just more familiar with it)

My question is, looking at my current build/gear, do you think it is even worth doing a swap? Is it really that much tankier?

I can do T17's, 40% deli, wisped, nemesis mods, all quant alters with a pretty loose regex already. What I struggle with it juiced rogue exiles, which I would like to try this league.


Path of building online tool is a bit scuffed, will update with a direct link when I'm home tonight, but here's my ninja.

https://poe.ninja/builds/settlers/character/Piousqd/NvrPlayinRangerAgain?type=exp&i=1&search=name%3DNvr


I am not sure it is worth swapping but I can't be 100% sure.

Your max hit stats are excellent. I consider my build to be extremely tanky and my max hits are lower than yours across the board.

My EHP is much much higher than yours but that is only due to blocking. EHP is no where near as good a stat as max hit IMO.

But I don't want to discount max block either. The thread is littered with people who struggled with survivability on the dual wand set up only to find our set up significantly better for survivability.

I have never done any juiced rogue exiles so I can't say whether they are doable or not with the Svalinn set up.

Your list of improvements to your already amazing build looks very solid. For the helmet, you might be able to find a double corrupt that gives you life leech on cold (you have enough cold damage I think to cap life leech), and then that might open up a world of new options for you in the large cluster since Doryiani's Lesson would no longer be needed.


Thanks for taking the time to look through it xD

Yea i don't know if I'll swap, or if ill have the time/energy to complete that shopping list, but it its good to have goals haha.


Yea. Leech on the helm would be ideal, but slim pickings on trade and very pricey this league when they do pop up. Been working some double corrupts on kitavas in when i take a break from other stuff, maybe ill get lucky.



Bought this last league for like 70d, wasnt even stacking power charges Q.Q.

“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
Last edited by Piousqd on Oct 15, 2024, 2:15:41 PM
https://pobb.in/a3XLeQcJV__a

Hi, I've implemented some changes. What could be improved? Also how do i improve quality on my gems? thanks for the help so far. What atlas strategies are good for this build? and is my config looking right? no way i really have 20m dps....also what do i use div on? I just buy valdos and open them but after 20 i got nothing good. i think i should have 60+ div by now, doing really unoptimal strats.
first of all your fire resist tattoos are in the wrong place, they need to be in range of the red nightmare to give you extra block, second of all your wand is just bad and you have enough to probably buy some spell damage essence and a good fractured base or just save up a bit further and buy one of the decent haunted wands with archmage stats outright. Additionally I would suggest that you invest in a cluster jewel with doryanis lesson and scintillating idea, those two notables and the jewel sockets will give a significant advantage overall.

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