No hardcore events? What?

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Teret3 wrote:

Look, a person simply created a post asking why there are no HC events, it did not affect SC players in any way, but some persons could not pass by, the first posts were immediately provocative and offensive, imposing their opinion and speaking for others.

AMEN BROTHER!

If this thread has showed anything, then that some SC players' ego is immensely threatened by the faint notion that they may not be the pinnacle of God's creation, so much so that the mere existence of another mode in the game could hurt their feelings.

At the end of the day the question was "why is there no HC version of the events" and not "please tell me why the mode I enjoy is bad" - those comments were unnecessary, provocative and downright hostile.

As someone who plays all modes.. SC, HC and Ruthless, I can say that elitists exist in every mode. This 'us vs them' mentality is just exhausting.

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Teret3 wrote:

Or statements like this:

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But its hard to believe that some hc players still live in the delusion of having a much different gameplay. While in reality they play the same game in the same difficulty, just with the only catch of being limited to less build diversity hoho

Saying that HC and SС are games on the same difficulty and the only difference is less variety of builds... and saying that someone is living in a delusion.

Again, if you die in the SC, you lose 10% exp and thats it. If you die on HC you lose from several days to several weeks of progress. This is a fundamental difference. I dont understand how you can seriously say that SC and HC are the same thing, thats what it means to “still live in the delusion”.

As mentioned in a different best case you don't die in hc because you click your logout macro just in the right time. Or best case you don't even die because you avoid tricky and complicated content that might be a little bit rough for your build.
Yes a character is dead in hc, but that's just if you play bad or greedy, the same way people die in SC as well. But in the end of the day both modes have the same difficulty so stop living with the delusion that hc is the Pinnacle difficulty mode to brag around with while in reality shit is just as easy as sc there days.
We don't even get any new endgame content anymore and engaging years old content for the xth time on any hc meta build doesn't make it any more special.
What racers do is sort of special as they destroy the content in such a short time on the bare minimum, but the average hc player tires to stall as much time as they can to get overkill gear on meta builds to get said content done, if even that's the case.

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Teret3 wrote:

Look, a person simply created a post asking why there are no HC events, it did not affect SC players in any way, but some persons could not pass by, the first posts were immediately provocative and offensive, imposing their opinion and speaking for others:

Dude, did you read the second post of this topic before it got censored? Where the guy called all SC players "censored by support"? And do you have ANY idea how many instances of some HC rando dissing SC or making fun of SC players FOR NO REASON AND WITH NO CONTEXT i've seen in this forum during my years here? I'd be a fucking billionaire if i got 50 cent for every case. You and your friends started this shit. You just don't even notice anymore because ridiculing SC is so natural to you.

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Baharoth15 wrote:

Dude, did you read the second post of this topic before it got censored? Where the guy called all SC players "censored by support"?

All it took was one person fitting your narrative and all hell broke loose, completely derailing the thread and butthurt players throwing hissy fits. That person doesn't speak for the rest of the HC community much like not everyone from SC is as bigoted and hateful as some of the responses here might suggest.

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Aynix wrote:

When was last time you seen someone running 100% Deli "fully jucied maps" on HC? When was last time you seen someone farming uber bosses? (farming them, not killing them once to see if you can do that).

Our guild did that on regular basis when trade was alive. 3 players out of 10 or so: ara, zmey, podjarka.

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You guys (again, not ALL of you, just big part) run same, safe, thing over and over again in hope you will reach 100 before you die to some DC/crash because there is no other way for you to die in the content you are doing.

According to poe.ninja we have plenty of ppl reached level 95 and level 100. Their characters managed to survive. Do you really think they only play normal rarity T16s? If so, how do you know?

And there is nothing wrong if HC players avoid difficult content before they can actually do it after crafting better gear.

SC players just don't care about the death, because there are no deaths on SC. It allows to create very unbalanced zoom-zoom characters called "glass cannons". Why do you need defenses? Pointless, let's invest into damage. Ailemtns? Who cares, invest into the DPS. No phys defenses? I don't care, invest into the damage. One shots from Shaper's ball? Haha, I have 1B DPS, I don't care. Memory Game? Resurrect in Town, phase skipped. I just can switch her phases in 1 hit because my Immortal 123 HP character has 2B DPS. Haha EZ.

Everything on SC is about boosting DPS to the sky, nothing else matters unless it is very specific build. The HUGE part of the game mechanics are being ignored and trashed, because it is just pointless to invest into defences, they don't give anything useful. Your character is immortal anyway.

To be honest some of uber boss killers on HC are also glass cannons, but they can't do anything else.

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Aynix wrote:

But dont go on a Forum bragging how you are oh so much better by playing HC. (again, not you personally, talking about most HC players) Thats why people are making fun of HC.

This forum is not dedicated exclusively to SC players. Anyone can express their opinion. Also read the title of this thread and the first post. The thread is not about how HC differs from SC, but about GGGs decision. SC players came here and started to brag how HC is bad and THEY don't need HC events.

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jdp29 wrote:

There's nothing to know except death is permanent, period.

You can wax poetic about how you need certain defenses, builds, blah blah blah but at the end of the day all that matters is that permadeath is enabled, and you need to learn and build around that, which a SC can do if they can stomach playing HC and deal with permadeath.

Exactly, knowing that your character can die forces you to know every single move of your enemy. Every single ability, debuff, behaviour, timing, other shit and combinations of that shit. From the PoV of SC player most in-game mechanics are just visual effects and some of them even are not shown properly (thanks to GGG :-/). You can ignore most of the negative factors (and their combos) on SC but you can't do that playing HC. That's the difference.

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cursorTarget wrote:

According to poe.ninja we have plenty of ppl reached level 95 and level 100. Their characters managed to survive. Do you really think they only play normal rarity T16s? If so, how do you know?

In last years events (Delirium, Mayhem) "normal rarity" wasnt even available. IIRC in Delirium the natural T16 had between 70% and 100% Delirium.

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cursorTarget wrote:

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jdp29 wrote:

There's nothing to know except death is permanent, period.

You can wax poetic about how you need certain defenses, builds, blah blah blah but at the end of the day all that matters is that permadeath is enabled, and you need to learn and build around that, which a SC can do if they can stomach playing HC and deal with permadeath.

Exactly, knowing that your character can die forces you to know every single move of your enemy. Every single ability, debuff, behaviour, timing, other shit and combinations of that shit. From the PoV of SC player most in-game mechanics are just visual effects and some of them even are not shown properly (thanks to GGG :-/). You can ignore most of the negative factors (and their combos) on SC but you can't do that playing HC. That's the difference.

It's still not a different game. It's the same thing. Also, people in SC learn the same stuff as HC, they don't want to die either. In fact, they have to learn the bosses just as much because SC don't have a massive amount of defense to let them ignore certain things. You can't ignore anything on SC if it is going to kill you, because you won't have the defense to live through it.

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jdp29 wrote:

It's still not a different game. It's the same thing. Also, people in SC learn the same stuff as HC, they don't want to die either. In fact, they have to learn the bosses just as much because SC don't have a massive amount of defense to let them ignore certain things. You can't ignore anything on SC if it is going to kill you, because you won't have the defense to live through it.

A statement born of ignorance in lieu of past metas like CoD-bomber, the prevailance of dedicated boss carries, or stacking as many millions of DPS as you can on a build and play around 6 portals.

The game may be the same, but the rules are different, and no amount of copium can change that

There is no better defense than killing enemy before it can even attack. Thats how "zoom zoom builds" started.