No hardcore events? What?

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Baharoth15 wrote:

I have a lot of respect for HC players like Ben or Steelmage who can do everything i do in SC in HC SSF. But that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of HC players are complete pushovers.

Sure, only Ben and Steel Image can do T11+ maps, everyone else stuck in acts...

HC Ancestors: Found 14741 characters.
Filtered by level from 95 to 100: Found 4114 characters. (28%)
Filtered by level from 100 to 100: Found 602 characters. (4%)
Sure, they reached level 100 doing T10s... You can't be serious, stop trolling ppl.
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Jgizle wrote:
I played Hardcore when it was actually Hardcore. I been playing this game for 10 years, and I don't have enough time to even play the game anymore. Back when I started just getting to maps was an achievement itself. There wasn't all these end game bosses, with uber variants, the mapping progression was much more difficult, maps were rare, and you were lucky if you were even able to magically sustain red maps. Even before then when Mapping didn't event exist, the game was far more difficult than it has ever been. Not only did you have to deal with lockstep not existing, and the fact that a log out macro would still leave you in game for 10 seconds, but things were overall much weaker.

People like to joke about how Ruthless is today, but it was even worse back in the day.

I could level a character to 90+ in Hardcore over the next month or two on my 1 day off a week just to show you I can. The way the game is now is nothing like it used to be. Despite being a hardcore game from the start, it is heavily casual now. People who haven't played since beta wouldn't even understand what the game used to be like.


When you say "no one cares about HC" you come to the wrong thread my friend, because this thread is literal proof that you are incorrect.

I get that you played "HC when it was cool" but try not sounding like a boomer grandparent whose family contemplates not inviting for christmas again
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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Jgizle wrote:
I could level a character to 90+ in Hardcore over the next month or two on my 1 day off a week just to show you I can.
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Draegnarrr wrote:
doesn't change that most of the playerbase would view 90 on HC as a major achievement not a triviality however regardless of content type run.
In todays PoE level 90 doesnt mean much. Just look at the HC ladders: ~900x level 100. Current PoE culture seems to be mostly about being fast, not about getting there.

So from my POV for any arguments about "HC being easy because its easy to get to X" to be properly viable they need to include playtime.
No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle!
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Zrevnur wrote:
In todays PoE level 90 doesnt mean much.


I agree but anytime you get a large number of SC players trying out HC they view 90 as a big achievement (and to be fair when you don't do it all the time it is!)

When Ziz runs a gauntlet for example there are always a large number of players who don't usually play HC now playing harder HC and measuring their progress.

So my point is that for your average player 90 on HC is an achievement regardless of it not meaning much as you say so I don't really think it should be belittled just because we do it regularly or very safely in some cases.

Its like killing major bosses on a self made build even in SC, that's a big deal to most players even when it seems trivial if you always make your own builds.
This thread reminds me of countless threads in WoW where PVP players try to convince the rest of the players that they were better players because they play PVP, and PVP was really popular. Neither which were true. Come to think of it, there's hardcore in Vanilla WoW now, wonder how those threads are shaking out and what the actual playerbase is.
Last edited by jdp29 on Oct 28, 2023, 12:52:48 PM
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jdp29 wrote:
This thread reminds me of countless threads in WoW where PVP players try to convince the rest of the players that they were better players because they play PVP, and PVP was really popular. Neither which were true. Come to think of it, there's hardcore in Vanilla WoW now, wonder how those threads are shaking out and what the actual playerbase is.


"I am better because I only get to die once." Type shit.
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jdp29 wrote:
This thread reminds me of countless threads in WoW where PVP players try to convince the rest of the players that they were better players because they play PVP, and PVP was really popular. Neither which were true. Come to think of it, there's hardcore in Vanilla WoW now, wonder how those threads are shaking out and what the actual playerbase is.


I actually see a lot of people who don't even play HC reply to threads about HC trying to sell the image that "HC players think they're better" when in reality most HC players are super chill & global chat is actually enjoyable.

I don't know if the existence of HC, Ruthless and SSF players making some of those who don't play those modes feel belittled by their sheer existence or if they have other quarrels, but it never ceases to surprise me.

Shit, half the comments in this thread alone are "why would you play HC" or "HC sucks" and I simply don't understand how people even care about something they are not subject to at all. The (potential) existence of HC and SSF versions of the event change nothing for SC Trade players, but here we are bringing up WoW and PvP like it has any room being here
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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cursorTarget wrote:

Sure, they reached level 100 doing T10s... You can't be serious, stop trolling ppl.


Most people actually did. Blue T10, white T16, doesnt rly matter. When was last time you seen someone running 100% Deli "fully jucied maps" on HC? When was last time you seen someone farming uber bosses? (farming them, not killing them once to see if you can do that). The amount of people that actually do that is so small that they can be called anomaly. The truth that most HC players are so eager to hide is that most HC players (some of you are diffrent, ofc) avoid ALL hard content to not risk their character. You guys (again, not ALL of you, just big part) run same, safe, thing over and over again in hope you will reach 100 before you die to some DC/crash because there is no other way for you to die in the content you are doing.
If you like playing like that, go ahead, everyone likes diffrent stuff. But dont go on a Forum bragging how you are oh so much better by playing HC. (again, not you personally, talking about most HC players) Thats why people are making fun of HC.
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jdp29 wrote:
This thread reminds me of countless threads in WoW where PVP players try to convince the rest of the players that they were better players because they play PVP, and PVP was really popular. Neither which were true.


I'd beg to differ on this one, I never found a gladiator who was a shit player (except ones that bought a carry) literally zero in a raid setting.

PvP wasn't popular however, there were plenty of PvE only players that were also exceptional and they (the pvp players) did have a very high tendency to be dbags to borrow from the americans.

I would stand by my initial statement though and I don't say that as someone who was a gladiator, I tried but I was just absolute shit at PvP I just couldn't do it lol.

And Aynix an overwhelming majority of HC players you never hear from same as SC, they don't post here or on reddit just play and do their own thing having fun their own way. Braggers are a really tiny portion - the only thing i'd brag about to do with HC is that trade is extremely chill and deserves its reputation.
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shadowthedead wrote:
Basically this -
anyone who mocks any HC player's achievements (should it be T10 maps, Red Elder, T16 Cassia, anything) should just post a video of him doing the same in HC with saying "see, it's easy anyone can do it"
Then, yes, all your mocking and criticizing and arguments are all valid



I mean regardless of your mode Blight is just a afk auto scroll map cause your towers take care of anything. You can basically afk and maybe move away from on death effects ever here and there.
And like the other poster mentioned, tutorial elder is already pretty damn old and nothing that special, but congratulations that you've managed to clear the content 6years after release in hc?. You should make a video about Uber elder or any other Uber content instead cause that's at least worth to flex with.
Simple t16 maps ain't anything special after all unless you actually run high juiced content with deli or what do ever.
But no nobody has to post you any video of anything to proof you wrong, just get down of your high hc ego mentality and don't expect to get instant gratification anytime you demand it.
Flames and madness. I'm so glad I didn't miss the fun.
Last edited by Pashid on Oct 28, 2023, 3:01:40 PM

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