This has been the most miserable league for years for me

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Nomancs wrote:

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TreeOfDead wrote:

good or bad its individual BUT balance always should be main for GGG
sadly atm its NOT balanced and its bad

1hp few chaos builds just ez rush 2k rank while other few div+ builds gettin wrecked

if every build would perform identically in every league mechanic it would be boring af. Every map cleared same speed for everyone, every boss, every mechanic... what would be the point of picking build at all?

The point would be a small thing called the personal choice?:)

If you enjoy having others to tell you how to play (meaning what builds are broken op in this patch), your choice, but what you've cited here is actually the definition of balance. First time I see someone seriously suggesting having a game with content (skills, items) no one should use because it should be underperforming by design.

As for loot in core game, this is usual policy. Most spectacular drops always come to current temp league mechanic, how else is GGG going to rope people into playing it. So unfortunately, complaining about it is as pointless as complaining about death penalty:)

This post probably fits better here. Suffice to say, this game mode has been horrible for me too. At least on high rankings. It was more fun at lower rankings, cause it wasn't quite such an unbalanced oneshotty cluster-f*** then.

I was a dumbass and went back to the TOTA mode. With this thread in mind, I thought maybe it would suck less arse now. But I was ofc deluded in my naive optimism.

I recoloured some items to make room for Grace instead of Determination, and removed some gems to make space for a pseudo-5-linked Phantasmal void sphere. Even so, with the cheese on the side, it got rammed down my throat at lightning pace.

It started well in fairness. Won the first 3 tournaments, and felt like I was in control. Even dared to take on Mr Cowshit twice at the start of one tournament (he had good points).

Then it predictably went sour. Ahuana in the final, but with a sucky reward, so I removed our warriors and took the loss for a reroll (yeah, I actually felt confident - how dumb I was). Re-match and still a pretty sucky reward, but off we go. Solid lineup too, and with three spear dancers in escort, a caldera ravager in attack and another in defence, plus other good units, but also some 'starting' units like tuataras. We lost and I suffered countless deaths, and soon enough the 3 sunset sages in various attacking positions tore us asunder. But at least we did SOMETHING and took down... ONE totem.

Allright. Next tournament, maybe our AI won't be turned off this time.

A few wins later, and still got a good team. Not the final yet, and I forget which opponent it was, but don't think it was Ahuana.

0.5 seconds into the match, and I'm dead on the ground from a spear dancer that flies at me from offscreen to oneshot me. I've got 79% evasion, or 74% with flasks off, but it may as well be 0% for all the good it does. Same with 75/74 block (dropped down due to gear changes on this re-work).

I'm falling over dead time and again an eye blink or three after reviving, sometimes with not a damn thing visible on screen. And I'm using Void sphere too, at least when I'm alive long enough to get the f'ing spell off.

After that match I close down the game in disgust, and I doubt (and bloody well hope!!!) that I never am stupid enough to set my feet back into that f'ing hall again.

This is, without a shred of doubt, the most infuriating, frustrating and unbalanced game or game mode I have ever experienced in my gaming life. And I'm a grown man, not a freckled kid.

If this ever goes core -- Kitava bless our souls if it does -- it needs a complete overhaul from the ground up to make it have a shred of balance and fairness. Short of that, we can "hope" GGG nerfs it into the ground, so nobody will bother setting foot there. Right now it's such a god-awful experience, I regret ever trying out the game and wasting money on it. It has one redeeming quality, namely the tattoos.

As for rewards? I got 7 chaos out of those 4.5 tournaments, at rank 2000, so hip hu-flipping-rah.

Now then, before I switch back to my usual setup of Poison SRS with an AG, this is how I ventured into the Hall of Instant Oneshots. I will try to sell the phantasmal void sphere to avoid being tempted to go back into this nightmare from the deepest trenches of Hell again.

PoB: https://pobb.in/0rChYBkL7cPK

Meanwhile I'll cross my fingers that the next league will better balanced and with a (much!) fairer gameplay. Horrendously low bar to meet, but that's where we are now. My first, and rather accidental, meeting with Sirus felt more fair than this. At least I beat the fecker.

Sorry for the long text, but writing out some of the frustrations can help, and there is also the (again) naive hope that it is valuable feedback for the few souls still working on POE1.

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Echothesis wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

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TreeOfDead wrote:

good or bad its individual BUT balance always should be main for GGG
sadly atm its NOT balanced and its bad

1hp few chaos builds just ez rush 2k rank while other few div+ builds gettin wrecked

if every build would perform identically in every league mechanic it would be boring af. Every map cleared same speed for everyone, every boss, every mechanic... what would be the point of picking build at all?

The point would be a small thing called the personal choice?:)

If you enjoy having others to tell you how to play (meaning what builds are broken op in this patch), your choice, but what you've cited here is actually the definition of balance. First time I see someone seriously suggesting having a game with content (skills, items) no one should use because it should be underperforming by design.

It is very interesting way of thinking, you're the first person I've seen that is ok to have in reality only one build for whole game with just maybe visual differences and call it "balanced" game with "multiple build choices" - if everything would be the same, how would be that a choice? Skill A and B do same aoe, same dmg, same single target... what for? I don't know a single game that would aim for something like that, they rather go opposite direction. I'm fairly sure some people here are hired by competition.

Nice strawman, but in the essence, correct. Obviously not to the level of absurdity you try to twist my words for, yet different skills should have similar dps scale at the top end (or have other unique perks to compensate for lack of dps), instead of wild disparity reaching hundreds of million dps

What we have now is some setups deleting all content in a flash, while other skills can barely lift off, given same level of investment. And some people using the former as their high horse to keep telling gitgut to people trying to use latter and having miserable experience.

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Echothesis wrote:

Nice strawman, but in the essence, correct. Obviously not to the level of absurdity you try to twist my words for, yet different skills should have similar dps scale at the top end (or have other unique perks to compensate for lack of dps), instead of wild disparity reaching hundreds of million dps

What we have now is some setups deleting all content in a flash, while other skills can barely lift off, given same level of investment. And some people using the former as their high horse to keep telling gitgut to people trying to use latter and having miserable experience.

No, it is mostly people who either have no idea how to make a build so they end up with a very bad ones, use aoe builds on bosses complain it is low dps, or take high single target dps and complain it is slow on maps, or even take a build heavly reliant on self-harm and try to tank out maven lasers (someone even complained about it). People are having miserable experience because they don't know what they're doing for most of the time and try to make a build with near to 0 experience.
You take a dedicated tool for the task or try to do everything with just a hammer?