This has been the most miserable league for years for me

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Just for the record - poisonous concoction was nerfed, not poison itself. Pathfinder is the second most played ascendancy currently with almost 10% representation. 83% of the pathfinders pick Nature's Reprisal, so we can assume that they use poison. This is a huge number and doesn't even include other ascendancies which use poison like Occultist.

There were several general nerfs that affected poison, not just Poisonous Concoction this league. PConc got nerfed hard last league. Chief of these was the Temporal Chains nerf, but Devouring Diadem got smacked for the third (or forth?) time in a row as well. Finally, there were really damaging Mastery Changes. There were also a bunch of undocumented defense nerfs.

It needs to be said, why would designers feel the need to nerf a build that caps out at 41.5 million DPS with Cull due to an absolute hard-coded limit (which no other build has)? I'm boggled.

Having said that, there are ways to play around it, which is what makes PoE engaging. That's not possible when trade is completely screwed up by league mechanics, and screwed two ways:

1. Players aren't playing normal core content because it's just not worth it compared to the money train that league + other mechanics are, which in turn means there is a paucity of usually plentiful items.

2. A huge injection of raw currency from the league mechanic drives prices up naturally.

Combine those two things, and if you aren't playing meta, you are going to have a miserable time of it.

On the other hand there is a huge influx of scarabs which makes juicing up maps a joke. Mapping is still one of the best sources of income if you are going for div cards, and div scarabs are particularly cheap. Further, things like Empower level 4 is also a joke to acquire because of the huge influx of such gems. And finally a huge amount of raw divines means that chaos orbs retain a reasonable price that doesn't come close to 300c per divine.

Of course, you gotta look at the full picture and plan accordingly instead of doing what you've been doing before

So... I've been juicing the usual suspects (with some backyard Torment as well) and as I said, I've gotten nada. 17 days played this league mind you. This has never happened before. Not one T1 card from Crimson Temple, not one from Cemetery. My highest drops have been raw divs. All the cards and scarabs from maps (Ambush), and resonators from Delve have been < 1 Divine. Like I said, it feels broken.

None of which solves the paucity of items problems anyway, which is compounded by all the other league issues.

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t0lkien wrote:

I don't enjoy the league mechanic and so am not interested in respeccing to Voidsphere just to be able to play efficiently. I'm not interested in Sanctum. Yet the currency from those two mechanics destroyed the game, and hobbled trade. Neither am I interested in no-lifing a ghost busting setup just to take advantage of top end MF - though the modest version of Torment farming I did yielded nothing anyway

That is completely fine because it's PoE and PoE has a lot of alternatives. You can still farm:

- Maven's Invitations, especially with the new Maven keystone.
- Delve depth 500+
- Deli mirror for orbs
- 83 tribute lab for grand spectrums
- Vaal Temple
- Polaric and Withering Invitations (the smaller red and blue ones)
- Beast hunting
- Alva corruption temples
- Betrayal/Catarina for winged scarabs, div card bundles, etc.

None of these are influenced by MF. They are all very consistant with little varience and very profitable while generally favouring a more balanced character.

i just got 2 divines in 1 tota tournament in 10 minutes

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CAPSLOCK_ON wrote:

i just got 2 divines in 1 tota tournament in 10 minutes

Thank-you for helping to prove the point.

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t0lkien wrote:

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CAPSLOCK_ON wrote:

i just got 2 divines in 1 tota tournament in 10 minutes

Thank-you for helping to prove the point.

all you need is 70div and 1500 vivid life force to have 140div and make a strong build that can farm the content you like EZ

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CAPSLOCK_ON wrote:

all you need is 70div and 1500 vivid life force to have 140div and make a strong build that can farm the content you like EZ

Honestly bud, you should probably read a post before you reply to it.

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t0lkien wrote:

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CAPSLOCK_ON wrote:

all you need is 70div and 1500 vivid life force to have 140div and make a strong build that can farm the content you like EZ

Honestly bud, you should probably read a post before you reply to it.

i did read it you're complaining you haven't had any drops worth more than a div as if mapping profit comes from those drops i don't know much but i know when mapping your profit comes from bulk selling stuff that is worth less than a div individually maybe learn the basics before complaining on forum

BUD

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CAPSLOCK_ON wrote:

i did read it you're complaining you haven't had any drops worth more than a div as if mapping profit comes from those drops i don't know much but i know when mapping your profit comes from bulk selling stuff that is worth less than a div individually maybe learn the basics before complaining on forum

BUD

Just because I didn't get any drops over a div doesn't mean I didn't get any drops for a div or less. I don't know why you would assume that. I funded my entire league with the small drops. I could hardly have gotten to end game if I hadn't. Mine is a kingdom built on Alteration, Chromatic, and Jewelery Orbs, with a whole bunch of resonators thrown in.

The point is after 17 days played in any previous league I would have had more than a few decent drops already on top of the bubble gum currency generators that always occur during Delve and Mapping. And those drops are needed this league more than ever, because trade pricing is absurd.

I.E. the core game drops this league are much worse than previous leagues, at least in my (extended) experience. They've done something, and it sucks. And that's on top of the borked trade caused as a direct result of the league mechanic.