POE 2 speed slowed down. Yay or Nay ?
" Sorry, but I'm out of this one. What you talk about here, is either the world largest hyperbole, or happening in some niche sub forum I've never visited. I've NEVER scaled to that level of insanity as the build you're linking and using as an example - in my 11 years of playing. People have explained to you that it is an insane outlier of a build, crowdfunded over quite some time. If you're going to let a couple of Uber-elites on the forum convince you that this is the level of build YOU as a casual player should aim for, I don't think I'm going to blame it on the Uber-elites. No, it's not expected. I'm on the forum telling you that. Are you going to listen to me or the Uber-elites telling you "100+ divine builds are the only way to go"? Of course you'll listen to the latter, so what am I doing... Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you. Last edited by Phrazz on Jul 19, 2023, 5:33:26 AM
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I doubt there are any uber elites here on the forum or on reddit that could even afford that build. As i said it was literally crowd funded from the viewer base. He is just making shit up to have a point. Yeah, some people here have a scewed view of what's normal in POE but that build is well above even the most absurd ones.
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" Sigh. All right. A question, as legitimate as ever I can ask. When you see people in threads like this coming down with tremendous force and gusto on the opinion "Path of Exile needs to keep every last millimeter of its absolutely breakneck speed no matter what!" and completely ignoring any arguments or pleas from players who simply cannot keep up, it doesn't cause any sort of dissonance? It doesn't register at all? I know y'all are ignoring me at this point, so fine. But a number of other players have piped up in support of a slower-but-smoother experience and say that would go a long way towards revitalizing their interest in Path of Exile. Are none of their opinions valid, either? Religion of Speed people are not only against the 'slower' part, they're also against the 'smoother' part for some completely unfathomable reason. They don't want the slick-as-hell new animation systems, character rigging, and overall visual improvements of PoE2, and I cannot figure out a single good reason why that would be the case. The closest I can come up with is that the smoother animations make them look "slower" even if they're still clearing monsters at the same absolutely absurd pace, and so they want to keep the sketchy janky broken shit we currently have that was never designed to work at the speeds the game has reached simply due to that looking 'faster' to them. Which, if there's any truth to that? I shouldn't really need to point out how utterly bullshit insane it is. The usual answer to "I don't want to play as fast as the Religion of Speed people" is always "okay just play SSF then and don't care." Why? There are grades of speed between the Warp 113 of the Religion of Zoom people and the "I'm lucky if I can halfway finish one build in the space of an entire extended-duration league" pace of play in SSF. I like being able to try more exotic builds than SSF allows for given its absolute and inviolate lack of any and all equipment beyond basic garbage rares; experimenting with the breadth of Path of Exile's build customization is what draws me to the game, and I can't do that in SSF. But I also can't do it at the utterly lunatic speed the Religion of Zoom people insist is "The Norm", so I wind up cut out of the market and having to work so much harder to try and fund even a basic, inexpensive version of some of the crazy out-there builds I'd like to work with. Like, example: I have long sought to make a viable build out of the idea of using Cospri's Malice's crit trigger in conjunction with Blade Flurry > Cast While Channeling to create a multi-trigger 'Winter Knight' build that assails enemies with flurries of different spells. I've never gotten it to work because I've never figured out how one person can use Gearset A to scale to 50M+ Pinnacle DPS while I use Gearset A2 that looks mostly comparable save for only mildly lower overall rolls (and I do mean mildly, y'all know the difference between T2/T3 mods and T1 mods is usually several dozen divines) and get barely 200k normal DPS. I know that's a "me" problem, but it's still a problem I'm trying to work out, and it's kept any of my attempts at the Winter Knight from working. But if I did what the Religion of Zoom players said and "just play SSF and stop caring"? I could play for the next ten years and never once see a Cospri's Malice to try and experiment with. I would never be able to try that build concept again. Why should I have to give up everything I enjoy about the game, everything I like to do in it, just to make Religion of Zoom people feel better about shutting out anyone that isn't as fast as they are? | |
" It's not about ignoring you nor your arguments. All opinions are valid. But it's about disagreeing with you and your arguments. People find the fast-paced gameplay in PoE FUN, which should be the main focus in a video game. NO ONE is FORCING people to go fast, but the game LETS you go fast through investment IF YOU WANT TO. As plenty of people have said before (which you seem to ignore); there are plenty of slower builds out there that beat the whole game. Why is the potential speed in PoE bothering people so much, when it's not required nor balanced around? You used RF as an example earlier, but MOST RF builds are pretty slow - but works fine. " No one is asking you to "give up everything you enjoy". If you play PoE to make other people feel better, you're doing it wrong. Play the game the way you want to and ignore the Uber-elites telling you that you're doing it wrong. You're not playing it wrong. Most of your arguments seem to come from a point where slower builds are impossible, and those arguments quickly become invalid - because they are wrong. Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you. Last edited by Phrazz on Jul 19, 2023, 11:01:40 AM
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" You don't and i doubt anyone ever asked you too. There is ruthless, there is SSF, there is standard. If SC trade league is too fast paced for your liking, fine, there are alternatives available where you can just play at your own pace. You won't have to care about the market and bots/no lifers flooding it with shit if you just stay away from trade/play SSF. You won't have to care about the 3 month time limit if you just play standard. And just for reference, i've been doing both for like 90% of my POE career. If you want to go slower in this game there are plenty of ways to do so without much sacrifice. |
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And that's exactly what I mean, Baharoth.
"Don't like being forced to play as fast as your merely mortal frame can manage? Then do SSF. Do Ruthless. Do Standard. There's options for total losers who don't worship at the Altar of Zoom." Counterpoint: "do you like trying the new league mechanics? New skills and items? Do you enjoy not paying between ten to thirty chaos for a two-alch rare because of scientifically insane pricee bloat in Standard? WHELP TOO BAD. If you wanna league, you have to keep up with the league, and that means being level 90 before the first day's done, 95 by the end of the weekend, and having between fifty to five hundred divines to burn going 40/40 in the first week before abandoning the league entirely." Why is it okay to tell people to just not play any of the Cool New Shit, ever? And then somehow not okay to tell Religion of Zoom people that their addiction to supermegaultrahyperspeed and the corresponding hyperacceleration of player interaction is making the game worse for everyone else and maybe they can throttle back to being done with the damn league in a couple of weeks instead of four fucking days? | |
" Just ignore people telling you to play SSF. It's still the same game - with a handicap. You can still play at your own pace in the regular league. You don't have to be level 90 at day two. I never am. Sure, there's riches to be had if you're pushing it and stay in front of the economy. But if playing the economy isn't your goal, don't let anyone tell you that you "have" to. Items become cheaper as the league goes on, hence; build becomes easier. And people telling you that the league is dead after a few weeks? Lies and hyperbole. DL:DR If you want to be a rich motherfucker; yes, speed and economy are things you need to care about. If not, you can still beat everything in a league by playing at your own pace. Sure, you won't do it at day two, but you don't seem to want pace, so don't worry so much about it. Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you.
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" And there he goes with the hyperbole and the ghost council dictating what he can and can't do again. Honestly my man, you're in no moral high ground to dictate what others can or cannot do, so how about you chill with the pompous attitude? I can also call Coconutdoggy to come here if you want a proper shit show. Ruthless should be [Removed by Support]. Last edited by AdRonZh3Ro on Jul 19, 2023, 4:18:36 PM
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" None of that is true. None. I play every league and enjoy the hell out of it, on less than one divine, and under level 90. Last edited by superbomb1967 on Jul 19, 2023, 4:36:41 PM
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8 mod maps are the new alch and go.
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