Lost Ark experience was a total disaster...

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Draegnarrr wrote:
Yeah anyone toting numbers needs to remember new world posted enormous numbers at launch but is practically dead already :p

Staying powers hard to measure until a few months in and how players respond to content cycles


One pretty big difference here: Lost Ark isn't new. It's already proven significant staying power in its domestic market for years now -- and that's in a more blatant pay-to-win, grindy form. After Amazon's crashing failure with New World, I suspect they were very careful to make sure the Western debut of a Korean hit would land successfully.

So far, so true.

The numbers matter in this case because they reflect the game's 'smaller scale' popularity on a global stage.

But if Lost Ark is 'practically dead' in a few months, I'll be back to acknowledge your prescience.
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Draegnarrr wrote:
Yeah anyone toting numbers needs to remember new world posted enormous numbers at launch but is practically dead already :p

Staying powers hard to measure until a few months in and how players respond to content cycles


One pretty big difference here: Lost Ark isn't new. It's already proven significant staying power in its domestic market for years now -- and that's in a more blatant pay-to-win, grindy form. After Amazon's crashing failure with New World, I suspect they were very careful to make sure the Western debut of a Korean hit would land successfully.

So far, so true.

The numbers matter in this case because they reflect the game's 'smaller scale' popularity on a global stage.

But if Lost Ark is 'practically dead' in a few months, I'll be back to acknowledge your prescience.


The ,, domestic,, market is irrelevant in these korean games.

Infact most of the time they attract almost zero interest in the west or even russia.
Lost ark was a little bit more worked on to match the west gameplay, but its no different than the lineage2 grinder game in its core.

None of the korean games has any longevity in the western market so far.
Big part of that is due massive bot waves and almost zero support or will to stop them.
Their antibot systems are archaic and useless .

My prediction is absolutely failure for lost ark as every other korean garbage before it..
Remindme! 2 months

You'll forgive my scepticism. You've created a thread stating it was a total disaster which, let's be honest, it really wasn't. So it's not as if you're even vaguely objective about this, eh? :)
https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.
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Remindme! 2 months

You'll forgive my scepticism. You've created a thread stating it was a total disaster which, let's be honest, it really wasn't. So it's not as if you're even vaguely objective about this, eh? :)


Western devs actually struggle to make new mmorpg. Since WOW is taking more than 50% of the market. It isn't that Korean MMOs struggle so much as in every new MMOs would struggle. People always talked crap about Korean mmos or Eastern mmos.. yet they all seem to survive fine. The way they are they survive better.

If you look at the western market... There arent that many, they fail more then they succeed with exception of the very big ones... and not many seem to come out.
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Remindme! 2 months

You'll forgive my scepticism. You've created a thread stating it was a total disaster which, let's be honest, it really wasn't. So it's not as if you're even vaguely objective about this, eh? :)


Didnt you quit the forum few years ago?

I can actually describe both Lineage2 and Aion( played them both for about 1 year each..) - the so called - WOW KILLERS !!!!!

You want objectivity Charan?

Both are garbage uncomparable to any aspect of wow as an MMO.

Ive played the next wow killer - Lost Ark and its absolute copy - pasta of Aion.
BIG TITTED KAWAII KOREAN TRASH who everyone will forget in 2-3 months.

There you go ur welcome.

ps: did i mentioned the 90% bot playerbase?

Oh i did ok..
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SneakySanta wrote:

BIG TITTED KAWAII KOREAN TRASH


Classy feedback as always.

Sometimes, just sometimes, I wonder about the CoC, its interpretation, and implementation.

I guess its cool.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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Oops, I think I pushed a button!

Irony is I fucking hate the game, but I fucking hate misrepresentation even more.

Like I said, see ya in a few months. I don't mind being wrong. In fact, I'm prepared for it most times. Makes adult life a lot more tolerable. :)

But I think in this case I'm right and Lost Ark willl be doing just fine in a few months.

We. Shall. See!

https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.
Last edited by Foreverhappychan on Mar 16, 2022, 1:50:38 AM
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Oops, I think I pushed a button!

Irony is I fucking hate the game, but I fucking hate misrepresentation even more.

Like I said, see ya in a few months. I don't mind being wrong. In fact, I'm prepared for it most times. Makes adult life a lot more tolerable. :)

But I think in this case I'm right and Lost Ark willl be doing just fine in a few months.

We. Shall. See!



If u mean just fine, 99% of the playerbase are actual bots like every korean mmo ,then yeah.

It will be just fine :)
Sometimes the other side does misrepresentation as well.

And after that reporters should risk their lives to show the real truth.

So don't be so confident in your reality as well..
Last edited by SneakySanta on Mar 16, 2022, 3:29:08 AM
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SneakySanta wrote:


If u mean just fine, 99% of the playerbase are actual bots like every korean mmo ,then yeah.

It will be just fine :)


It is a NA/EU problem.

In Korea, it is impossible to play the game itself without their Korean social security number. There is no such law in the West. Without verification and requiring their personal information, Bots can create unlimited accounts in NA/EU .

Please have fun with the bots.

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And after that reporters should risk their lives to show the real truth.


A lot of reporters are desktop warriors. Too much comfort sitting down in their chair, too little perk in seeking the truth.
Last edited by awesome999 on Mar 16, 2022, 4:13:44 AM

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