Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

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hidden_gobsek wrote:

This is the way GGG fixes the thing - drop nuclear bomb to kill a cockroach.

Man this is way more apt than you might think, since just like the nuke, their nerfs don't even get the cockroaches in the first place.

Carrion Golem is still a broken AF build, but now only people who can afford to sink around 400ex on it get to play with it. Same way these Harvest Nerfs won't do much to deter people who have farming bots and RMTs from climbing to unattainable levels of build by day 2 of the next league, but they go at it anyways.

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Healthylungs wrote:

Enjoy 3.14 guys, good time to take a break. This step backwards is very concerning so I will enjoy another game which isn't so abusive.

It is exactly my approach as well. There is a plenty other interesing games around. I am not going to play a game, where players feedbacks are totally ignored. I am not going to spend a lots of time on mindless farming, only because it is a way how developers would like to a game to be played.
I am just finishing current league and it is over for me.

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behemoth7777777 wrote:

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Healthylungs wrote:

Enjoy 3.14 guys, good time to take a break. This step backwards is very concerning so I will enjoy another game which isn't so abusive.

It is exactly my approach as well. There is a plenty other interesing games around. I am not going to play a game, where players feedbacks are totally ignored. I am not going to spend a lots of time on mindless farming, only because it is a way how developers would like to a game to be played.
I am just finishing current league and it is over for me.

Finally, this happening.

Hope GGG will feel it and actualky start to play their game. And start to move to being connected to the playerbase. Actual playerbase. Not imaginary, and not the most vocal and prepayed pr streamers wha are o.oo1% of it. Yes, they play, but the play in a very different conditions.

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DarkJen wrote:

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behemoth7777777 wrote:

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Healthylungs wrote:

Enjoy 3.14 guys, good time to take a break. This step backwards is very concerning so I will enjoy another game which isn't so abusive.

It is exactly my approach as well. There is a plenty other interesing games around. I am not going to play a game, where players feedbacks are totally ignored. I am not going to spend a lots of time on mindless farming, only because it is a way how developers would like to a game to be played.
I am just finishing current league and it is over for me.

Finally, this happening.

Hope GGG will feel it and actualky start to play their game. And start to move to being connected to the playerbase. Actual playerbase. Not imaginary, and not the most vocal and prepayed pr streamers wha are o.oo1% of it. Yes, they play, but the play in a very different conditions.

Nothing will change tbh, there is no game that can even come close this this specific experience that POE has, and so people will continue to play it because it is still one of a kind pretty much. There are similar games but none with any depth to them. Unless a real competitor comes along GGG can pretty much do whatever they want and they will still have a sizeable playerbase.

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magicalgrlmadoka wrote:

Nothing will change tbh, there is no game that can even come close this this specific experience that POE has, and so people will continue to play it because it is still one of a kind pretty much. There are similar games but none with any depth to them. Unless a real competitor comes along GGG can pretty much do whatever they want and they will still have a sizeable playerbase.

Isn't this game the proof of D3 failure? I guess you are right in a way that D3 never changed...

please GGG, leave harvest alone.. don't destroy our character build dreams :(

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OdinNguyen wrote:

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magicalgrlmadoka wrote:

Nothing will change tbh, there is no game that can even come close this this specific experience that POE has, and so people will continue to play it because it is still one of a kind pretty much. There are similar games but none with any depth to them. Unless a real competitor comes along GGG can pretty much do whatever they want and they will still have a sizeable playerbase.

Isn't this game the proof of D3 failure? I guess you are right in a way that D3 never changed...

You know,its no matter.
If game is abusive it goes away.

There are better and more fun activities without this 'close your eyes and exalt scam 2hp regen" kinda thing. Games fights not within genre, they fight for uot time well spent. So.. if it spent well - we are gladly support.

Guess what consequences of game goin more crappy rng style?

Nicely done with this NERF! I never realized how many great games are out until you guys shut the door on Harvest. Dungeon Fighters Online here I come! GGG can R.I.P with Harvest.

Why do people whine so much.

You can probably beat most of the game on SC with 50C gear, you dont need harvest gear for that.

I mean, you got 6 rips, 6 portal.

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illdyking wrote:

Why do people whine so much.

You can probably beat most of the game on SC with 50C gear, you dont need harvest gear for that.

I mean, you got 6 rips, 6 portal.

TRANSLATION: "Why do people want to keep playing after they beat act 10? Who do they think they are?"

Maybe they're just sick of hitting a brick wall unless they play an expensive meta build?

One of the problems we've been discussing in here is player retention, and frustration with not being able to participate in the endgame. It's one of the reasons why new leagues peter out after 2 weeks, and why leagues with harvest crafting last longer.

Your post literally supports the position you claim to oppose.