Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

This is a shitty and dumb and tone-deaf manifesto, for sure!

I have played EVERY league since joining in 2012

I will probably skip the next one and move on if you guys dont reconsider, though you probably dont care.

In 2012 The future of PoE was all roses for me, but now nearly 10 years later it feels like every decision you guys make in fact makes the game worse, laggier, or just more boring

I have 10-12 hours per day to spend on gaming, and when I dont feel that I can do anything worthwhile in PoE in those 12 hours, then imagine how more casual players must feel

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Marleyman65 wrote:

Hey GGG,
these streamers speak for me aginst your Harvers balance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7dczHG4M44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCnhymJQlio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdpA_xHXhEA

I use Ex to buy stuff, never used one for crafting in 1500hrs of play and I still have crappy gear.

Thanks to have give us and to GGG this great videos.

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Kairuto2020 wrote:

Let's let them implement what is intended first and we will see if it really hurt the whole game play. What if few weeks into next league, you see many top tier gear easily and everyone will be forgeting this whole episode. If it turn out really bad, GGG can always re-tweak again the following league. It is a free game after all and we already know GGG is using all of this year to fine tune the mechanic for POE2. Lets give them a chance for it to prove their tweak. One can always skip the league if it is that bad. Don't murder them on just 1 adjustment when they have already provided 8 years of countless new league mechanic and gaming enjoyment.

It will not happen as you describe. When they said that harvest will not core yet, it was semi-ok. People understood, that Harvest as a mechanic need deep rebalance. When they implemented Harvest in the current state, it was really pleasure, even if you see how balanced it is and how RNG it is still (except discord TFT). The problem is in the tweaks themself. So either remove Harvest again (it will be boo, but more safe boo from players) or tweak it on level, that it is RNG, but still reasonable RNG. After this changes, Harvest will turn probably in Unique, Card, Currency gamble and nothing more. What is efficiency of Harvest, if it cannot be used on influenced item (forget about huge amount of builds, which get DPS or defense with help of the Harvest), cannot be augmented (it is more for min-max, but still good for different builds). In next league, then most builds will be like ED, Minions, Cyclone, Toxic Rain, miners and poison with these changes. Forget about explody chest, fair life builds (counting that they increased HP and damage of bosses in this league), AW9 will be something, that only rich guys will ever reach. There are plenty of things, that will be done only by small amount of players and only during like 2-3 weeks in the league. So GGG need to think before implementing this Harvest nerf or they will lose much more people then they can expect.

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This sentiment was summed up by a member of our design team who recently said "We don't want to take away the feeling of closing your eyes and Exalting an item, scared to see whether you ruined it or not."

So what does this guy design? Not mods and weight, right? And how many exalt did he slam?

Problem is not that the game is too hard so ppl would need harvest to enjoy endgame content.

Problem is that many many possible builds are brutally useless compared to the top 5 builds.

Taking away (or nerfing hard) harvest is ok if u empower multiple weak skills so we are not forced to play the same fkn lame shit skill over and over again.

Or at least delete the forgotten skills completely so poe wont go on pretending to have hundrets of options for skills...

You guys are playing with fire and the future of your game by doing this I hope you know.

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GusTheGamer wrote:

They remove this bad news from the main page news and push a bunch of microtransaction posts. WTF Seriously

I noticed that too. Cowardly. Reminds me of how they postponed the league launch because of Cyberpunk; their spurious explanation didn't hide their weakness then, nor does it now.

My fucking god. They did that because the event is up and winners should be seen.

Take of your tinfoil hats and keep watching the stars for your alien friends.

I'll take off my tinfoil hat when you remove your blindfold.

"This sentiment was summed up by a member of our design team who recently said "We don't want to take away the feeling of closing your eyes and Exalting an item, scared to see whether you ruined it or not." "

The statement above does not make sense when reading the changes. You want people to go back to gambling, no problem, but have the decency to say so.

The rich gets richer once again... The average player gets shafted and the 1% will still be making mirror items.

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ZettaSlash wrote:

"This sentiment was summed up by a member of our design team who recently said "We don't want to take away the feeling of closing your eyes and Exalting an item, scared to see whether you ruined it or not." "

The statement above does not make sense when reading the changes. You want people to go back to gambling, no problem, but have the decency to say so.

The rich gets richer once again... The average player gets shafted and the 1% will still be making mirror items.

Yeah that's how it should be if you're not committed to it then quite frankly why should you have the same access because you have a family? You can only do 1 hour a day?

Imagine making the game less enjoyable for the 90% of the people that dont have the time to grind all day to get first week HH and god items by taking away the already nerfed harvest content.

I guess this is the last league im gonna enjoy playing. It is a sad time for path of exile.
As a guy who works most of the week and wants to enjoy the game the few hours he has , harvest was a godsend thing that would make me not play another cyclone / minion / top 5 build.

Oh well.

Do agree with the way heart of the grove changes where there are going to be shards instead of instant boss fight.