Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

For me this manifesto is complit BS you basicly state that you cant alowe us to have fun more then 1 in your life time

First of all there is no reson why we shuld not be able craft how we see feet at the moment and not be forced to go trhue tousands of howers just do you chek box of grind. You are starting do becoming as meny other companys and trying to inforce on us thing we DO NOT WONT!!! as it was with idiotik on deth efects ( pusnihsing players bicose you wont to and can ) gues what if im geting frustartated playing a game that used to give me fun its not good for you if i get frustrated enough im gona drop it and newer come back to it and 3 years ago i was seying im newer gona stop playing it (thats how much you mesed it up)

i was happy before trowing at you some money just bicos it was a game i culd count on your stupid elitysm will kill this game meyby ewen before you will be able to relise poe 2.0 and it will be your won foult cos you wuld not listen if a huge % of us is seying its bad. then that huge & of players will stop playing your game meyby not all but if you lose 10% player base ech pach after 10 paczes you mey be left with 0

the stupidest thing you did was meyking softcore and hc the same thing( hc became ligue of logout and bs deaths from not own foult thats why i will newer play hc )
your becoiming a snake thats is eating it self stop walck back 5 pases wach and listen and start meyking changes not that you wont but we as playerbase wont ( this game is no longer only your tieme to understand it or be another flop in long term )

Sincierly cos i used to love this game until you swiched targeting to instant nuke 2 screns awey from you( if mob dosent se your on your scren he still can kill you just bicos game is the wy it is now and for me its broken ) those are only few problems that shuld be delt with years ago

GGG, I fell in love with crafting this league. I learned how to craft ALL of my gear I have with my cyclone character. I wish to say that anyone can craft the gear they need with harvest as it is currently, it just takes farming currency to build your item. I don't see an issue here because its still random, rerolling for high tier life on armor cost a lot, but when you are able to finally get it, it feels great being able to complete your item.

please don't remove harvest like this. its very sad

CBA checking 200 pages if this has been posted but PathOfMatth released a video on this that pretty much sums up everything wrong with these changes.

And a small addition from me:
My two most played leagues were Harvest and Ritual.
RITUAL! - Which I SKIP IN EVERY MAP.

Terrible change. If this is implemented next league as you say you will, you won't be getting my $$$ as I won't be playing.

Just giving more wealth to even fewer people (the 0.01%ers) is a terrible design choice by itself.

Best thing you've ever done, if you weren't fixing a self-caused problem anyway.

I am still sure that you will be selling add life, add chaos and others for a non trivial price which will force us to keep selling crafts on discord.

Suggestion: Give us a timer. When you kill one plot you have 60 seconds to craft your item. Killing another plot adds 30 seconds. When your time is up you get kicked out like incursion.
Also make everyone in your party able to craft (or at the very least see them)! It would make it the best thing ever. Please GGG!

Very bad change GGG, I don't like the path you're taking. There's just less and less reasons to play this game.

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Biszek wrote:

Based on what statistics you made these changes?

I believe you literaly made at least few % players to quit because of that.

I kinda don't understand on what basis your game balance person does these changes.

Like back in the day in 2016 i LOVED Righteous Ride on Chieftain as Pure HP build, which you literally killed 2 leagues later(because of chieftain ascendancy change to force physical to fire because 10% STR was hidden behind it and then nerf to RF to deal 20% of HP)

I kinda do not like changes to builds that I create/think of, as I was using cyclone to curse on hit flammability on it, I decided to stick with cyclone for my 'next' build..

..which you nerfed hard 2 leagues after with your awesome 'boosting 2handed weapons' patch where Ngahamu Axe got nerfed really hard (molten burst is also procing a lot less compared to before) with lowering its physical damage by 30% or so.

I am casual player, I like to stick with one build that I like (feel free to check my characters)

Harvest was one of 'in game events' that gave me option to craft stuff (in which i was unlucky and wasnt albe to btw and not that I am very good at crafting) with less RNG that makes me want to quit playing this game.

Well here goes GGG with nerfing harvest where i can't even 'roll physical' on items..

Well I guess i'll just skip Harvest as there's nothing to do in there, back to old alternation spam with regal + multicraft

Whats gonna be next?

The obvious statistic is Google Trends interest in POE, which collapsed super fast during Harvest as people got bored of the league quicker than usual.

Then it hasn't held up as well in 3.13 as it did in 3.9, despite (at least in my opinion) 3.13 being a superior expansion save the issues of Harvest being so dominant.

Turns out, when characters get too powerful relative to the content, the game gets less fun.

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Azarhiel wrote:

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Sarciss wrote:

Actually i had a look at a few characters from people that were seemingly overreacting in this thread (aka threating "bye GGG" "thanks for making me quit") - many of them/you werent even utilizing harvest (at least not for their gear - maybe sold crafts idk).
Like why the outrage if literally nothing will change for you lmao?

What ? Do you understand that you still need hundreds of harvest to get the good crafts and it takes hundreds more to said craft rolling a good modifier ?

I mainly use harvest on projects that are for my build, never i will craft with harvest on an item that i wear because of the 80% chance of still breaking your item with harvest...

How can you say nothing changes for players when in reality everything changes and the casino craft will once again be the only way to gamble on items !!

Id expect someone to be so heavily impacted by the harvest changes that it makes him quit the game for good to have some harvest crafted gear by this time of the league though?
Otherwise it has literally no impact on them as i said before.

Not saying everything is fine with the changes or with harvest in general. See my other responses for that.

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Hasanderson7 wrote:

I play in PoE because I like to make my character perfect❗
The mechanics of the Harvest, made my goals and my meaning of the game a reality!☝🏻
There are thousands of stats in the game, and it's just Unrealistic to get the right property with one Exalted Orb, which caused me and other players to have Cognitive Dissonance, before the advent of the harvest mechanics!
There are thousands of stats in the game, trying to get the desired property with 1 Exalted orb - is violence against players❗❗❗

Harvest - the reason why I play in this league 10 times more than I played before! I got a sense of being able to make my character perfect, which is not so easy, by the way👌🏻🙄

Without Harvest, I won't be able to play this game anymore.
Since I will feel the pain of the fact that no matter how much time I spend, but I will not have any opportunity to bring my character to perfection😢

This news killed not only Harvest, this news killed the meaning of the game❗😭
And I won't play it as much as I do in this league anymore.

"At its core, Path of Exile is a game about the acquisition of powerful items."
*meanwhile deleting harvest from the game*

There is your next meme!

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sirgog wrote:

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Biszek wrote:

Based on what statistics you made these changes?

I believe you literaly made at least few % players to quit because of that.

I kinda don't understand on what basis your game balance person does these changes.

Like back in the day in 2016 i LOVED Righteous Ride on Chieftain as Pure HP build, which you literally killed 2 leagues later(because of chieftain ascendancy change to force physical to fire because 10% STR was hidden behind it and then nerf to RF to deal 20% of HP)

I kinda do not like changes to builds that I create/think of, as I was using cyclone to curse on hit flammability on it, I decided to stick with cyclone for my 'next' build..

..which you nerfed hard 2 leagues after with your awesome 'boosting 2handed weapons' patch where Ngahamu Axe got nerfed really hard (molten burst is also procing a lot less compared to before) with lowering its physical damage by 30% or so.

I am casual player, I like to stick with one build that I like (feel free to check my characters)

Harvest was one of 'in game events' that gave me option to craft stuff (in which i was unlucky and wasnt albe to btw and not that I am very good at crafting) with less RNG that makes me want to quit playing this game.

Well here goes GGG with nerfing harvest where i can't even 'roll physical' on items..

Well I guess i'll just skip Harvest as there's nothing to do in there, back to old alternation spam with regal + multicraft

Whats gonna be next?

The obvious statistic is Google Trends interest in POE, which collapsed super fast during Harvest as people got bored of the league quicker than usual.

Then it hasn't held up as well in 3.13 as it did in 3.9, despite (at least in my opinion) 3.13 being a superior expansion save the issues of Harvest being so dominant.

Turns out, when characters get too powerful relative to the content, the game gets less fun.

Except you can try out other builds which you wouldn't be able to do if Harvest craft wasn't around... can you imagine taking 2 months just to get your character to a point where you can clear all content and then having to do it all over again with a different build? I'd much rather wait for next league. With Harvest you can just roll another build as you have access to a lot more stuff.