Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

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Schnarrchnase wrote:

TLDR:
1.) You want PoE to be a Gamble.
2.) there are maybe 1000 people who had perfect items. On how many total players? How many of the total players didn't even have luck finding the crafts, yet alone a single grove? - None of the bug reports, to harvest groves not appearing with a 10% chance per map in over 100 maps in a row, were replied to by staff members.
3.) You take out the good crafts and increase the chance of a grove encounter. Sop it still feels like shit. Nothing changed, take it out. Stop putting everything in the core game. There is too much already.

And a closing thought, just my personal onion filled with emotions and rage:
"the feeling of exalting an item with closed eyes" - I don't even find exalted orbs, how am I supposed to exalt anything? I have also never found any item worth exalting in the first place.
Oh, by the way, I don't even have 3 good stats on a single item after 300hrs of pure harvest grinding this league. It's pure RNG and it's a bad system for a game. Everyone who agrees on 'everything has to be RNG' should see their doctor and start a rehab for their gambling addiction.

Cheers,
cya for 4.0 in the hopes, that you finally realized, balancing around the top 1% is NOT the way to go.

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syncope33 wrote:

Not to be overly critical, but does GGG even watch the top players streams?

They literally never pick up gear in maps.

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MackBesmirch wrote:

I have a pitch: what if instead of Harvest crafting serving the same purpose of currency, Harvest crafting could instead contextualize currency we'd have to spend even without it?

Like, instead of a Harvest craft acting like a chaos orb that will re-roll a rare item with a fire modifier, what if the harvest craft would say "Harvest Craft: Fire Mod -- using currency on an item in this window will roll at least one Fire mod."

Higher-tier Harvest crafts could be "Harvest Craft: Fire Mod Lucky -- using currency on an item in this window will roll a Fire mod with lucky values."

Or maybe "Using any Conqueror's Exalted Orb in this window will result in an item with any conqueror Influence and one Influence mod."

Or mimic other stuff available elsewhere in the game, like the Temple of Atzoatl:
- Spend a stack of Vaal Orbs to double-corrupt an item
- Spend an Ancient Orb to change a unique to another unique of the same type, including league-specific items

A lot of the Harvest crafts could even stay the same but require the currency to fuel them:
- Spend one Jeweller's Orb to re-roll the sockets on an item 10 times, keeping the highest number of sockets
- Spend an Orb of Horizons to change a map into another map, but prioritizing maps you have not yet competed yet.
- Using a Gemcutter's Prism on a gem in this window will add quality to a gem between 1% and 10%, but not raise a gem's quality above 20%


We'd actually HAVE to use our currency to get deterministic results, but the deterministic options would still be RNG in terms of discovering them. Then it'd really be end-game only, cuz you'd have to save enough currency to take advantage of the Harvest crafts when you got them.

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Schnarrchnase wrote:

Cheers,
cya for 4.0 in the hopes, that you finally realized, balancing around the top 1% is NOT the way to go.