Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

NB: My heartiest appreciation to every single player (like me) who took their time off their busy lives/schedule and (rightly) condemned this obviously predatory decision by "oh, I'm so godly, look at my godliness and rejoice!" chris!


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Using currency items like Exalted Orbs or Chaos Orbs on your gear is a powerful, risky and exciting way to improve it.




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Rene_2706 wrote:
Do you guys don't exalt slam?

is this the new version of "you guys not have phones?"

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EDIT: ^^ Just quoted a reply to this thread from page 150+ in response to the infamous "slam exalt with closed eyes" quip from original manifesto. My comment above that was removed by mods simply equated it to the (in)famous marie antoniette's "let them eat cake" out-of-touch-with-reality moment. One of these is okay, and one is not, apparently. Go figure!

I see zero excitement in spamming an item with any orb (whether alteration or chaos) and "hoping for a passable outcome" while doing so. The frequency of exalt drops being realistically what they are to any average player, even using one of them, let alone many for buying items in a league involves the same searching questions and trade-offs that come up while buying an appliance for the house. The streamers who do it, do it "for entertainment". And viewers who instigate and egg on such behaviour should feel bad for doing so. [Removed by Support]



Speaking of trading, that has hit the nadir this league, with people gaming the system far worse than in any other league.

* Deliberate underpricing to manipulate search results and appear as first item, then asking the player to "make your best offer" is not something anyone needs in their life. (Smart alecs in replies, I am aware of "ignore player" option and I am loathe to apply it, because that would be throwing the baby out with the bath water and ignore other items the person may have priced legitimately. It's easier to algorithmically remove a pricing anomaly from search results, assuming the devs are willing to plug in a cookie cutter implementation into their backend rather than asking all of us to gyrate comically to some unheard tune, all the time!)

* Scalpers under pricing items to lull you into pricing them the same, and then falling over each other to palm it off you, making the scheme triply obvious! All your support team has to do is to pretend to be listers in the game and you will find the usual suspects in no time. Then it's a case of false positive identification between desperate buyers, and obvious scalpers. Scalpers are a scourge on this game, and to society in general!

Are you or your team, doing anything about somehow placing a mechanism to dissuade just these two underhanded tactics? [Removed by Support]

Back on topic of harvesting:

Having played a private league in recent past, the harvest crafting options were the most democratic and meritocratic inclusions into game mechanics by far, in a very long time. It actually made people play the game with a real sense of progression and self improvement. I levelled my character to highest ever this league, because of having just enough assistance through harvest crafting mods to actually get what I want, with prices I could afford, and with sane hours of play. BTW, it didn't help by much, because it's still a gamble finding the aug you need in the time spent playing, but when you do, it helps very practically than your idiotic "UsINg cUrRenCy ITeMS LiKE ExALtEd oRbs OR cHAOS oRbs oN YoUR GeaR IS a POWERFUl, RIsKY And exciTIng wAy TO IMpROvE it." proclamation.

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PS: So my two prescient observations were too close to truth in order to be removed so quickly by support. Thanks GGG. In "censoring" me, you have validated me.
Last edited by surio#2492 on Mar 11, 2021, 3:15:36 AM
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killakil4 wrote:
This changes nothing just use essences and fossil i look forward to the next league


How you gonna play, if you never played, how do you know about fossils, if you dont have single character?
Last edited by kostyaq#4085 on Mar 10, 2021, 10:39:55 PM
Looking forward to next league
This is some april 1 joke right? Are you going to take from us the must fun stuff right????
RIP game.
This change is just telling 99% of the player base who can't put 12hours daily into the game to piss off...

Harvest was the only thing keeping me interested throughout the league. Was looking forward to next league with several crafting plans for builds to play around with but now.. guess its time to find something else to play.
It's funny how your philosophy, your way of thinking, in most cases, is the opposite as mine. I enjoy playing the game with OP characters, and when I spend 100 ex on a character I expect it to destroy the endgame. But for you it's different, you want people to "suffer" in your game. GGG, you're making a game, it's not real life, let people have fun, will you?

Plus Harvest might be deterministic now, but to make a perfect piece of gear, you still need to invest a lot. You might need 10 rem / add before hitting T1, and spent 10 to 20 ex just for 1 mod. Anyway, we'll see how it is in 3.14, but the way you talk always makes people think you nerfed things way too hard and turned our mind into a negative way of thinking and you shoud probably change that. Hire a psy of something for better communication hey.
I really hope you take the community feed back from this post and then make your decision... I honestly feel that its ok the way it is because it gives you a end of league goal of obtaining strong items that YOU can craft and not just buy off .trade. The overall cost of crafting a good item this league vs harvest was a lot higher in price and honestly 20 exalts for a crazy good item that otherwise would be 50+ exalts is a good spot for the game IMO. This is the longest I have ever played a league and I started in ambush. The fun of being able to craft an item without 50+ exalts is keeping me going and I'm not sure if I will play if we go back how it was.
you opens reddit and 90% of ppl are unistalling this game right now.

Really hope you reconsideer what you're doing.

Nobody likes the casino game and the "craft system" of the old path of exile with alts/regals/exalt and lucky.

You should improve harvest somehow, make it harder if needed, but not removing it from the game. Thats a shoot in your foot
My end, it justifies my means,
All I ever do is delay,
My every attempt to evade,
The end of the road
And my end....
Last edited by imLuCaSsS#6273 on Mar 10, 2021, 10:42:29 PM
Really really disappointing! I played this league for a much longer period of time than usual, particularly because of Harvest. I did have a lot of fun improving gear progressively and without just rolling the dice. Heck, it was one the few times I kept playing to Level 100 and even continued for a good while after reaching it without getting bored.

On the bright side, there's plenty of time freed up for other things than PoE in the coming months.

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