[3.13] Aziire's CwC Hydrosphere Elementalist - Maven Ez Clap | Ritual League Starter

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XerxesXXL wrote:

Don't we all ways have 0 lightning resonance because it's our highest damage (in regards to trinity); how do we get 50 resonance in all three stats? Or am I misreading/understanding trinity?

I asked a similar question myself via an edit on my previous post in this thread. I experienced similar issues where 99% of the time in my testing (albeit with a different build but using same mechanics) in that I only get 2 out of the 3 resonanaces to fill up, a third one almost never fills up.

I'd like to see someone actually post their build and proof of consistently getting all 3 resonances up with dual elements only to validate using Trinity.

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reciprocate wrote:

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XerxesXXL wrote:

Don't we all ways have 0 lightning resonance because it's our highest damage (in regards to trinity); how do we get 50 resonance in all three stats? Or am I misreading/understanding trinity?

I asked a similar question myself via an edit on my previous post in this thread. I experienced similar issues where 99% of the time in my testing (albeit with a different build but using same mechanics) in that I only get 2 out of the 3 resonanaces to fill up, a third one almost never fills up.

I'd like to see someone actually post their build and proof of consistently getting all 3 resonances up with dual elements only to validate using Trinity.

Short clip to show that it fills up:
https://www.gifyourgame.com/LongwallConsumedCarrie

I've been using trinity. Lightning fills up pretty regularly but I honestly have no idea how or why. This gem is horribly worded.

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vinco2050 wrote:

I've been using trinity. Lightning fills up pretty regularly but I honestly have no idea how or why. This gem is horribly worded.

Ya, I don't know why it works neither. :D

Mine always fills up.

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believers wrote:

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vinco2050 wrote:

I've been using trinity. Lightning fills up pretty regularly but I honestly have no idea how or why. This gem is horribly worded.

Ya, I don't know why it works neither. :D

Mine always fills up.

Did some digging. You only really showed a clip of you taking on a bunch of mobs at a Ritual, even my ignite spec can get all three bars to fill up albeit rarely. But I went deeper, your profile shows divine fury spec'ed meaning you actually hit with all 3 elements so you'll get resonance for all three to go off.

If you're willing to test, remove Divine Fury and do a whole map paying attention to how often all 3 resonance bars fill up.

I actually decided to do a minor respec and test both Divine Ire and Storm Burst while taking out Shaper of Flames to remove the Ignite build I was doing. I found better success in filling all three bars up more often (I was hitting with only Cold and Lightning - no fire damage on me), but far from consistently 100%, probably somewhere along the lines of 50% from pack to pack.

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reciprocate wrote:

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believers wrote:

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vinco2050 wrote:

I've been using trinity. Lightning fills up pretty regularly but I honestly have no idea how or why. This gem is horribly worded.

Ya, I don't know why it works neither. :D

Mine always fills up.

Did some digging. You only really showed a clip of you taking on a bunch of mobs at a Ritual, even my ignite spec can get all three bars to fill up albeit rarely. But I went deeper, your profile shows divine fury spec'ed meaning you actually hit with all 3 elements so you'll get resonance for all three to go off.

If you're willing to test, remove Divine Fury and do a whole map paying attention to how often all 3 resonance bars fill up.

I actually decided to do a minor respec and test both Divine Ire and Storm Burst while taking out Shaper of Flames to remove the Ignite build I was doing. I found better success in filling all three bars up more often (I was hitting with only Cold and Lightning - no fire damage on me), but far from consistently 100%, probably somewhere along the lines of 50% from pack to pack.

I've posted this video above few comments back - where it can be seen clearly that Trinity support works for Storm Burst as intended. I deal both Lightning and Cold Damage with Storm Burst which generates all three resonances and the bars fill up quite well.

Not sure what goes wrong in your version of the build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAUKfn9orec

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So, I've messed around quite a bit as well. Decided to finally drop Hydrosphere and use Trinity + Hypothermia instead with wand + shield. I'd prefer to be a higher level to get a decent life pool but I don't have the patience at the moment. I like playing the most rippy mods at the moment and sometimes I die, but I'd probably die with 1k more hp as well.

I tried that, but it seems I cannot sustain channeling properly linked Storm Burst although POB dps seems juicy (I managed to push to 40M in one of the versions without any crazy items). I believe I had mana cost of about 15 per cast at 11 casts per second which was eating my mana quite fast.

In the end i settled on a 7link with cwc as shaper mod.

The thing that's holding you back is the mana regen from mastermind if discord you get with hydrosphere. I'm trying to fix this with a corrosive elements cluster but they're really expensive

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reciprocate wrote:

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believers wrote:

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vinco2050 wrote:

I've been using trinity. Lightning fills up pretty regularly but I honestly have no idea how or why. This gem is horribly worded.

Ya, I don't know why it works neither. :D

Mine always fills up.

Did some digging. You only really showed a clip of you taking on a bunch of mobs at a Ritual, even my ignite spec can get all three bars to fill up albeit rarely. But I went deeper, your profile shows divine fury spec'ed meaning you actually hit with all 3 elements so you'll get resonance for all three to go off.

If you're willing to test, remove Divine Fury and do a whole map paying attention to how often all 3 resonance bars fill up.

I actually decided to do a minor respec and test both Divine Ire and Storm Burst while taking out Shaper of Flames to remove the Ignite build I was doing. I found better success in filling all three bars up more often (I was hitting with only Cold and Lightning - no fire damage on me), but far from consistently 100%, probably somewhere along the lines of 50% from pack to pack.

It fills up all the time.

Regarding the Trinity Support, if you want to have Cold Resonance proc constantly you CANNOT use Hatred, reason being Hatred pushes the Cold damage up too high, making Storm Burst consistently dealing Cold damage as the highest damage. You can still use Herald of Ice.

What I can explain (roughly) from Trinity with this build:
- Lightning and Cold Damage are pretty much equal, with Lightning only an inch higher (due to Lightning Walker notable, 48% conversion from Brotherhood Ring, and Infusion buff ONLY granting more PHYSICAL and LIGHTNING damge).
- When does Cold become higher? Snowstorm Notable from the Cluster. The 10% Gain from it somehow pushes the Cold damage up above the Lightning damage. Remember that Snowstorm effect doesn't happen every hit (the first hit to a new mob pack for instance), even for bosses (you stop hitting the boss to dodge their attack, they will be un-chilled)
--> Lightning and Cold take turns to be the highest damage --> Trinity procs constantly on all 3 Resonances

EDIT: About Cold Conduction notable that chills shocked enemies and vice versa, I currently don't have this node on my cluster, and I don't know that if the perma chill will affect Trinity Support in a bad way or not.

I'm running hatred and cold fills up but it's inconsistent. If I run wrath instead of hatred won't I have the same problem with lightning? I just can't figure out why it fills up sometimes and not others.