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vinco2050 wrote:
I'm running hatred and cold fills up but it's inconsistent. If I run wrath instead of hatred won't I have the same problem with lightning? I just can't figure out why it fills up sometimes and not others.
Basically, you need to follow the tree, the cluster jewels, the gear (at least have the Brotherhood Ring, and the upgraded Esh amulet), and not use Hatred, that's what I know
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Posted byYoghurtCranberry#2872on Feb 1, 2021, 10:20:19 AMBanned
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Surely you understand that that's not an explanation.
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Posted byvinco2050#5818on Feb 1, 2021, 10:25:55 AM
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vinco2050 wrote:
Surely you understand that that's not an explanation.
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YoghurtCranberry wrote:
Regarding the Trinity Support, if you want to have Cold Resonance proc constantly you CANNOT use Hatred, reason being Hatred pushes the Cold damage up too high, making Storm Burst consistently dealing Cold damage as the highest damage. You can still use Herald of Ice.
What I can explain (roughly) from Trinity with this build:
- Lightning and Cold Damage are pretty much equal, with Lightning only an inch higher (due to Lightning Walker notable, 48% conversion from Brotherhood Ring, and Infusion buff ONLY granting more PHYSICAL and LIGHTNING damge).
- When does Cold become higher? Snowstorm Notable from the Cluster. The 10% Gain from it somehow pushes the Cold damage up above the Lightning damage. Remember that Snowstorm effect doesn't happen every hit, since I don't have perma-chill granted from Cold Conduction Cluster notable.
--> Lightning and Cold take turns to be the highest damage --> Trinity procs constantly on all 3 Resonances
EDIT: About Cold Conduction notable that chills shocked enemies and vice versa, I currently don't have this node on my cluster, and I don't know that if the perma chill will affect Trinity Support in a bad way or not.
This is my rough explanation, hope it helps
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Posted byYoghurtCranberry#2872on Feb 1, 2021, 10:31:53 AMBanned
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The explanation makes plenty of sense when you look at it. Basically you need as close to as possible of a 50/50 split of lightning and cold damage as possible, if you're favoring one too much (like with Hatred which adds added phys gained as cold AND more cold damage multipliers) even with a standard 40% call of the brotherhood you'll probably have too much cold making it harder to get resonance up.
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Posted byreciprocate#3631on Feb 1, 2021, 10:42:15 AM
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The part I'm missing is why does cold ever go up at all while I'm running hatred. Is it highly cold resistant mobs?
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Posted byvinco2050#5818on Feb 1, 2021, 11:02:58 AM
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vinco2050 wrote:
The part I'm missing is why does cold ever go up at all while I'm running hatred. Is it highly cold resistant mobs?
Hatred has "Phys gain as cold"
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Posted byYoghurtCranberry#2872on Feb 1, 2021, 11:33:32 AMBanned
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YoghurtCranberry wrote:
Regarding the Trinity Support, if you want to have Cold Resonance proc constantly you CANNOT use Hatred, reason being Hatred pushes the Cold damage up too high, making Storm Burst consistently dealing Cold damage as the highest damage. You can still use Herald of Ice.
What I can explain (roughly) from Trinity with this build:
- Lightning and Cold Damage are pretty much equal, with Lightning only an inch higher (due to Lightning Walker notable, 48% conversion from Brotherhood Ring, and Infusion buff ONLY granting more PHYSICAL and LIGHTNING damge).
- When does Cold become higher? Snowstorm Notable from the Cluster. The 10% Gain from it somehow pushes the Cold damage up above the Lightning damage. Remember that Snowstorm effect doesn't happen every hit (the first hit to a new mob pack for instance), even for bosses (you stop hitting the boss to dodge their attack, they will be un-chilled)
--> Lightning and Cold take turns to be the highest damage --> Trinity procs constantly on all 3 Resonances
EDIT: About Cold Conduction notable that chills shocked enemies and vice versa, I currently don't have this node on my cluster, and I don't know that if the perma chill will affect Trinity Support in a bad way or not.
In place of Hatred do you run Zealotry? It seems quite good in this variant.
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Posted byXerxesXXL#1262on Feb 1, 2021, 5:15:31 PM
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Posted bybelievers#3044on Feb 1, 2021, 5:36:06 PM
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I got myself a corrosive elements cluster and now my cold trinity is always full (running hatred) . Still have no clue why it was sporadic before, or why it's always full now.
The ONLY difference is the addition of corrosive elements. I still have all the same cluster notables I did before.
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Posted byvinco2050#5818on Feb 1, 2021, 6:30:52 PM
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vinco2050 wrote:
I got myself a corrosive elements cluster and now my cold trinity is always full (running hatred) . Still have no clue why it was sporadic before, or why it's always full now.
The ONLY difference is the addition of corrosive elements. I still have all the same cluster notables I did before.
It's extremely tough to explain, but it means that you have, somehow, balanced the Lightning and Cold damage EXACTLY to the point of 50/50, that is monstrously difficult.
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Posted byYoghurtCranberry#2872on Feb 2, 2021, 1:31:24 AMBanned
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