There is NO USA LAW that exempts you from wearing a mask...
" So far, I've seen nothing along such lines. I'm sure the friendly CoCpolice will let us know if we get close. I have faith we can discuss this particular topic without having a rerun of that ill-fated megathread. The absence of certain agents provocateurs-by-proxy should help. https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.
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" It doesnt take politics or religion to get silenced here. Once i joked about women and my post was immediately deleted. It was a comment with some sarcasm, but not full of hate. Seems that forum moderators here tend to resort to dictatorial methods if you dont follow their agenda. When was the day free opinion died? I think I missed that. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke Last edited by Toshis8#1464 on Oct 25, 2020, 8:05:21 AM
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When it comes to masks and filtration, COVID is quite problematic.
When you wear a mask, the idea is to direct particulates up instead of out, thus preventing direct contact to someone near you. By adding social distance as well, the chances of this contact are much lower. The problem is the person wearing the mask, isnt protected from inhaling, or having droplets enter through the eyes , nose, or mouth. That's why indoor transmission is so high. The virus is also very small comparatively, and passes through the vast majority of masks and hepa filters. Its a real problem. As far as a discussion around COVID being carried out here, I do think its possible without devolving into a blatant political focus. Sure maybe some points overlap a bit, but I dont think it's an issue unless somebody pushes it intentionally, which is what our fearless ruler was alluding to. COVID itself isnt political, nor is it in conflict with any CoC rules. If we behave like good little boys and girls, we should be ok. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln Last edited by DarthSki44#6905 on Oct 25, 2020, 10:20:32 AM
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" Curious, Mrs. and I were star gazing last night and discussing this exact topic. ~ I have selective hearing, and today, you have not been selected.
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Some US states require people to wear a mask, some states don't. It seem the laws on mask isn't uniform. In states that have laws that require people to wear mask, then they do need to wear them. In states that don't, that is a big question mark.
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Someone called me? Agent Provocateur 00013 reporting for duty, sir!
Edit: Nah, just kiddin', don't sweat it. I'll just go back to playing the game, and let you have your little debate in peace, I'm particularly enjoying the league. Nice 'n' sleazy does it! Ἀρχή Σοφίας ἡ τῶν ὀνομάτων ἐπίσκεψις -Ἀντισθένης ἁπλοκύων Last edited by Nizhidrhamannit#1488 on Oct 25, 2020, 10:52:42 AM
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It would be nice to a have a cozy, remote little house somewhere in the nature, away from civilization. A self sustaining house, with solar panels, a well for water, water boiler etc. and a job where you can work alone.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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" My vision of such scenario is not so rosy. Expect betrayal and treachery amongst humankind, where humankind might not be the winning side. Humankind might not even survive if these Aliens enjoy crushing ants. Being Overly Optimistic can be an unhealthy habits and delusion. Your Approach to doomsday Is All Wrong. It is best if they don't find us. |
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" First, this is something of an attempt to clarify the issue so that mistakes concerning "Law" don't lead down a path to unnecessary arguing. (I wrote a bunch of stuff nobody would really enjoy reading... It's also possible the below, too, isn't worth reading... But,) The OP statement is not quite valid. It ignores "context" and doesn't appropriately, and necessarily, define "Law." Personally, I'm in favor of "mask wearing" in all public spaces for the near future (Masks that successfully provide some minimum protection from the wearer spreading diseases through respiration/droplets of.. stuffs). But, to say there is no law that exempts one from wearing such a thing is too strong a statement as there could be many situations in which a Law could support a person not wearing such a mask. Conversely, there are regulations, both local, State, and Federal, that require the use of such masks and even ones that are more physically restrictive. Are these also being considered as "Laws" by the OP? The intent of the OP appears to appeal in favor of "The Greater Good" being supreme in interpretation of Law/etc. However, the concept of "Majority Rule With Tyranny Towards None" also applies as well. "Rights" could also be an issue as well as the notion of "Private Property." And, then there's the mandate of both Federal and State powers. In short - It's not simply an argument that can be prefaced, founded on, or solved, by stating "There is no USE Law that Exempts You From Wearing A Mask." AND, fully and enthusiastically engaging on that principle is going to intrinsically result in inevitable arguments and dissent because the subject matter isn't properly established and may not be contextually valid, itself. Example: What if I owned a private, "member's only," grocery store and stated as one of the requirements for entrance that no member can wear a mask? Could my membership be forced to wear a mask by local, State, or Federal Laws, regulations, ordinances, etc, even when entering my establishment? If so, how? What if I gave away both memberships and groceries for "free" and, thus, wasn't required to have a business license as a result or I didn't require any licensing at all? Could I refuse entry to my private home by people who are wearing masks? If not, in what context? |
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" To answer your first question, any business can refuse service based on dress code. As long as they include masks on the dress code they could refuse or require it. I don't see any issue. (For example a nice steakhouse might require a jacket for men). For business operations there are already licensing laws and city ordinances in place governing basic operation in general. So a Costco or Sam's club type business isn't exempt even though they are membership only. However there are absolutely no laws or regulations requiring anything. The State's can put out guidelines and mandates, but those don't really have enforceable consequences outside temporary closure or fines (which imo would lose in a lawsuit. In fact in IL, my home state, there are already dozens of business suing the Governor) The only side note to this would be conditional memberships, like to a country club, or golf course. They can be very specific here with whatever they want. If you refuse they simply terminate your membership. It's contractual. The real problem overall is if a business does have a requirement of their customers to wear a mask, what is the solution for those that refuse? Call the cops? On what grounds? Trespassing during open hours? Store security? Prepare for a discriminations lawsuit or worse if you actually try to physically remove someone. It's a nightmare logistically. Right now they are getting people on technicalities like "disturbance", and that's how they get some of these crazy folks off planes for example. Either way it's a shitshow in general. I mean you could see where some of this would go. It gets quite slippery if you allow business to "select" their customers for any reason, even if it's under the guise of public health or whatever they claim. ACLU would love this. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln Last edited by DarthSki44#6905 on Oct 25, 2020, 7:47:22 PM
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