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SecretPancake wrote:
I'm interested in playing this build as a league starter, any idea where to use your last passive points pushing beyond level 80?
Cluster jewels more life nodes or jewel sockets, probably. I figure by the time of reaching 80, will have a good idea where to take the build from there.
Last edited by ThanatoZGaming#6817 on Mar 13, 2020, 12:14:15 AM
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Posted byThanatoZGaming#6817on Mar 13, 2020, 12:13:15 AM
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hmm what about annoint ?i don't see any .
Ravenous Horde should be a good choice ? well the tree is only 80 and is close so maybe not we can take it without lose tons of points ...
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Posted byRedeyesgeek#4028on Mar 13, 2020, 12:17:54 AM
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acekac93 wrote:
My impale animate weapon starter over 8k hp + 1.5m damage per weapon
enjoy https://pastebin.com/9hkdkLpq
u need forked pob https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/wiki/Installing-this-Fork
First thing I notice is that you have absolutely no passives left for cluster jewels. And there is at least one cluster jewel node you absolutely have to get for the phys impale version:
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Rotten Claws
Minions have a 20% chance to Impale on Hit with Attacks
That brings them up to 90%+ chance to Impale. Which will be an insane damage boost and well worth the passives spent to get it.
The other thing is that since you used Ghazzy's PoB as the base, you can't really put AW at anything but level 1. The flask in combination with the old level 1 AW simulates the new level 20 gem, which is the only one we actually know the numbers of.
Putting the old AW on level 8 and having the flask does not really reflect actual levels gained.
Getting rid of Spell Echo in the Spectre setup and at the same time as not getting Death Attunement is a choice you can make, but will result in much lower uptime of charges on your AWs. And not having them at full Charges permanently is a pretty big damage loss.
All that said, your tree is definitely a good way to go if you value life a lot more than damage. You will be very tanky and still have enough damage for everything in the game. I was considering going for more life myself and sacrificing some damage. As a comparison, I have 6500 life with that gear but 1.2m Shaper DPS vs your 900k (I reset yours to just a level 20 AW for comparisons sake). But I have actually 25 passive points left over, versus your 5.
So at the very least I would consider not going towards Barbarism and Juggernaut and using those pasisves for getting Rotten Claws and other often insane passives from cluster jewels. They can have some pretty sweet life nodes on them too ;)
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Temsen wrote:
Could atleast give credit to Ghazzy as it's his PoB you just slightly remade :P
Also you removed the cluster jewel option and the duration nodes, so might feel both clunky to keep the AW up and we got no option in case of a good node jewel.
We have been using Ghazzy's PoB for the last 20 pages of the thread, mostly to keep things compareable. Would get annoying really fast if we kept crediting him everytime we post a change :D
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Mar 13, 2020, 12:30:22 AM
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Posted byMecielle#3021on Mar 13, 2020, 12:20:29 AM
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Mecielle wrote:
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acekac93 wrote:
My impale animate weapon starter over 8k hp + 1.5m damage per weapon
enjoy https://pastebin.com/9hkdkLpq
u need forked pob https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/wiki/Installing-this-Fork
First thing I notice is that you have absolutely no passives left for cluster jewels. And there is at least one cluster jewel node you absolutely have to get for the phys impale version:
Rotten Claws
Minions have a 20% chance to Impale on Hit with Attacks
That brings them up to 90%+ chance to Impale. Which will be an insane damage boost and well worth the passives spent to get it.
The other thing is that since you used Ghazzy's PoB as the base, you can't really put AW at anything but level 1. The flask in combination with the old level 1 AW simulates the new level 20 gem, which is the only one we actually know the numbers of.
Putting the old AW on level 8 and having the flask does not really reflect actual levels gained.
Getting rid of Spell Echo in the Spectre setup and at the same time as not getting Death Attunement is a choice you can make, but will result in much lower uptime of charges on your AWs. And not having them at full Charges permanently is a pretty big damage loss.
All that said, your tree is definitely a good way to go if you value life a lot more than damage. You will be very tanky and still have enough damage for everything in the game. I was considering going for more life myself and sacrificing some damage. As a comparison, I have 6500 life with that gear but 1.2m Shaper DPS vs your 900k (I reset yours to just a level 20 AW for comparisons sake). But I have actually 25 passive points left over, versus your 5.
So at the very least I would consider not going towards Barbarism and Juggernaut and using those pasisves for getting Rotten Claws and other often insane passives from cluster jewels. They can have some pretty sweet life nodes on them too ;)
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Temsen wrote:
Could atleast give credit to Ghazzy as it's his PoB you just slightly remade :P
Also you removed the cluster jewel option and the duration nodes, so might feel both clunky to keep the AW up and we got no option in case of a good node jewel.
We have been using Ghazzy's PoB for the last 20 pages of the thread, mostly to keep things compareable. Would get annoying really fast if we kept crediting him everytime we post a change :D
do u have pob ? l want to check it ;] ty
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Posted byacekac93#3416on Mar 13, 2020, 12:31:09 AM
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acekac93 wrote:
do u have pob ? l want to check it ;] ty
I spent 6 more points to get the Tireless wheel. So now I have 19 passives left and 7000 life, and lower mana cost which will probably be very nice QoL.
Always keeping in mind that the gear Ghazzy used is insane on the life front, so 7000 with that gear will probably be more like 6000 for us until very late game.
I think everything else is setup correctly, if not lemme know:
https://pastebin.com/t79JB55Z
Oh and what I also wanted to mention. With that much investment into life, it could be a viable idea for you to check a CI version of this. It will also probably have lower damage, but could result in more EHP with lower investment.
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Posted byMecielle#3021on Mar 13, 2020, 12:36:52 AM
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Mecielle wrote:
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acekac93 wrote:
do u have pob ? l want to check it ;] ty
I spent 6 more points to get the Tireless wheel. So now I have 19 passives left and 7000 life, and lower mana cost which will probably be very nice QoL.
Always keeping in mind that the gear Ghazzy used is insane on the life front, so 7000 with that gear will probably be more like 6000 for us until very late game.
I think everything else is setup correctly, if not lemme know:
https://pastebin.com/t79JB55Z
yeah but u got minion dmg instead of mele splash looks like our dmg will be same in the end ;]]]
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Posted byacekac93#3416on Mar 13, 2020, 12:46:08 AM
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acekac93 wrote:
yeah but u got minion dmg instead of mele splash looks like our dmg will be same in the end ;]]]
Oh true! Didn't catch that.
But the point stands, if slightly less so. With the 20% impale from cluster+whatever else I get from the 14 more passives I have left to spend, and the missing Charge uptime you will have, the damage difference will still be quite big.
And I am not yet sure, but Potency of Will might be pretty important to keep at maximum AWs without stopping to resummon a few of them every few seconds.
But as I said, your tree is a solid defensive version. I just think you go too far if you don't use at least Rotten Claws from the cluster jewels. In a small cluster jewel it is only 6 passives to get it, but will be a ton of DPS.
Oh, and I don't know if you noticed, but you have Aspect of the Spider reserve life instead of mana. Not a big deal, won't happen in the game when you craft it on another item but the helmet. Just don't plan to use that mana in another way :D
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Posted byMecielle#3021on Mar 13, 2020, 12:59:40 AM
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Mecielle wrote:
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acekac93 wrote:
yeah but u got minion dmg instead of mele splash looks like our dmg will be same in the end ;]]]
Oh true! Didn't catch that.
But the point stands, if slightly less so. With the 20% impale from cluster+whatever else I get from the 14 more passives I have left to spend, and the missing Charge uptime you will have, the damage difference will still be quite big.
And I am not yet sure, but Potency of Will might be pretty important to keep at maximum AWs without stopping to resummon a few of them every few seconds.
But as I said, your tree is a solid defensive version. I just think you go too far if you don't use at least Rotten Claws from the cluster jewels. In a small cluster jewel it is only 6 passives to get it, but will be a ton of DPS.
Oh, and I don't know if you noticed, but you have Aspect of the Spider reserve life instead of mana. Not a big deal, won't happen in the game when you craft it on another item but the helmet. Just don't plan to use that mana in another way :D
hehe right ;)
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Posted byacekac93#3416on Mar 13, 2020, 1:24:43 AM
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Whats with people coming here to sell Ghazzy's build, doesn't he have a build guide?
Btw, good luck with getting 2 CIP. You're competing with poison builds, HoP builds, and the flock of other players playing AW. I don't think you'll find them at 3.9 prices.
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Posted byIchiMorghulis#4560on Mar 13, 2020, 1:30:49 AM
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Why not a nice 4l (even an elder helm to boost it more) of SG for clear?
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Posted byGoldPush#2668on Mar 13, 2020, 1:41:06 AM
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