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Keyen wrote:

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OP himself has been considering pure phys and ele versions a while back and Ghazzy's PoB has simply been used for comparison purposes

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For the record, Tuesday evening, OP believed that the Cold Build would be "high end only, fire build will be better untel then" ( despite the multiple demonstrations of the opposite I made), and yesterday, he made a post about how inferior physical version would be.

So much for the "he considered them a while back"

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Keyen wrote:

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Mecielle wrote:

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Keyen wrote:

Well, you probably saw that already, but CoC can reach 20M dps for a low budget (Just getting a real +1 6L for AW will be more expensive than everything in the pob combined):
https://pastebin.com/WV3KxKiK

And then, you can check around the PoB of AW everywhere on the thread, and see that for dozens exalts, you don't reach that :D

CoC is cheaper, and definitely an option for the start, but it is very limited in its potential. For example with only 2 CIPs and a Tabula I expect to be at around 20-22m Shaper DPS and I would be HUGELY surprised if I don't reach 30m+ Shaper DPS with only a small handful of exalts invested in my normal Phys Impale AW.

Not sure what you think is 100% vital to get that amount of damage that will cost "dozens of exalts".

But yea, until I get 2 CIPs the CoC version will be better. But I doubt CoC will be much cheaper than CIPs in the first few days.

Not sure about the limited potential when you are using Voidforge and multiply by 4 the added physical damage from jewels.

As I said, I have already 20M dps without rings, without awakened supports, without Belt, and with 5c jewels. You think you can hit 30m for an handful of exalt? You dont know that, especially with the unknown price of CIP (It will not be 3c, btw). You dont know the availability of rotten claws. I do know how much I can do already, without supposition, and I know I can scale much harder than that. You are also losing tons of utility from the lack of triggering wand, and tons of tankiness from the lack of shield. Pure dps is not everything. And even in the case you do beat CoC in super high end gear (Where the practical difference between 30m and 35m is not really important), you still have to summon every single AW one by one at the start of each map, resummon them mid map, gemme swaps for bosses, etc etc

But it's fine :D


So much for the "he considered them a while back"

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Mecielle wrote:

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Keyen wrote:

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OP himself has been considering pure phys and ele versions a while back and Ghazzy's PoB has simply been used for comparison purposes

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For the record, Tuesday evening, OP believed that the Cold Build would be "high end only, fire build will be better untel then" ( despite the multiple demonstrations of the opposite I made), and yesterday, he made a post about how inferior physical version would be.

So much for the "he considered them a while back"

Have a link to his post from yesterday? Or the page number. Because I would be interested to see how he gets to the opposite conclusion of what are the facts.

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Milanfan wrote:

Keyen,


Dont you think you are being a hypocrite telling people in your thread "Wrong skill, I think. It's not an AW build" and then posting in this thread about CoC?

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Primefunka wrote:

how to make this one tanky, or do you consider it already a tanky build