Wolcen Hype Release!

Number of players keep dropping, from the most hardcore "YOU JUST HATE THE GAME BECAUSE IT'S BETTER THAN POE" to " I WANT A REFUND".

The potential is there, but the game itself is even after the latest patches,still an alpha release.

In a year or so, who knows? Maybe this will turn out to be a really good game, but the devs really need to work on it. D4 is in the works, not that I expect blizz to actually deliver,given that they sold themselves as whores to activision. But then again there is POE2, and wolcen will really have to keep the pace up,if it wants to attract people to play.

it's a fun mess. you encounter so many bugs during a single session that it's almost cute/funny.

the complexity comes from dodging bugs basically.

then you get disconnected 3 levels deep into an expedition and get no rewards :)
it's hilarious

*having fun but it definitely isnt competition for poe.

Unfortunately it's not even close to be a competitor for POE,and that in my opinion is a bad thing. I truly hoped this would rise to it's true potential,but who knows....maybe in a year or so.

POE needs competition, it's not GGG as by this time they are as small as blizzard is in activision. This should be a message to Tencent,the actual giant making the rules,dictating what should happen next.

With no serious competition,this company will become the next blizzard,as it sold itself for money,and just like blizzard it will become an empty shell. If there is competition,that means that Tencent has to steer the ship in a better direction for us all,regardless if they like it or not,the market wants what the market wants.

Without it,expect some half assed bugfixes,but a ton of hideouts,sword effects,wings,portals,tons of mtx,but nothing more. As that is the thing that they will focus on,that they will make GGG focus on.

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The_Scourge wrote:

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I read your signature and laughed. What story is there after act 4? We become mutes ha

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Johny_Snow wrote:

The cash shop is the key part of the announcement. They rushed the game so hard so they can implement it and milk as much money as possible. I bet finishing the cash shop will be their priority numero uno. Get the money from the poor schmucks who still believe in them before even they leave.

Either you didn't read the entire article/listen to the interview. That or you just interrupted what you wanted from it, which that's what we do as humans too so I can't really fault you on that. Anyways, they said they will have to put all of that on the back burner to get everything caught up. Of course if they do release the $$$ things first or much sooner than what they discussed that would end any trust that's left with the company.

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The_Scourge wrote:

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I read your signature and laughed. What story is there after act 4? We become mutes ha

I was chatting about it with a good friend Exile who finally farmed my sword, played acts 1 to 10 with it. I was reminded that, even now, it's the only fully voiced 'story arc'. A guest character, written by someone who wouldn't Wraeclast from Westeros for the most part. That's...yeah, sad!

Keep in mind that there is *plot* after act 4. Plot is 'things happening'. There's a lot of that. Story, however, is how characters react to things happening. There is absolutely none of that beyond the npcs, and even then they remain largely static or simply 'shifted around' in Part 2: Nessa's gone, Clarissa's off her rocker, Dialla's gone, etc.

I suggested to Chris they just do green text for Exile reactions for acts 5-10 (as they did for acts 1-2 before the voice acting); at least that way people would get some sense that their characters are reacting to these incredible world-changing events. That suggestion was years ago now. Years.

The only reason I got to do the full 10 act gig was because I was willing to go with a new voice actress. Logistics are a bitch. I absolutely preferred the first VA but the new one does the job (I think it's more down to voice direction than quality of acting when she does miss the mark).

Anyway, it's easy to take these things for granted, but any review that says Wolcen's voice acting is 'bad' is just piling on all the other problems. Wolcen's voice acting is at worst average, and frequently good. Edric and Val, in particular, have very accomplished voice actors. I do not imagine they came cheap.

^I think larian will easily tople on both graphics and voice acting.

And they will probably deliver without any of the more basic errors like fundamental code issues.

Not sure why you wouldn't take the hype of BG3 over wolcen hype considering what they have in store, my notion of you is that it will probably deliver a far better gameplay experience that you desire but maybe im off the mark.

I'm out on wolcen, gave me a good couple of hours but being unable to actually use the mechanics the game offers because of looping errors and what have you is a fundamental dealbreaker for me, i play these types of games to fiddle with interactions of passive trees, items and character creation.

So far for the flaws of PoE it still delivers extremely well on the character customization and mechanical interactions front compared to competitors.

Peace,

-Boem-

I never really enjoyed that sort of game, the BGs and the Planescapes and even the Divinity Original Sins. Somehow just missed the boat, but I suspect once the narrative gets that hefty, I'd rather just read a book.

Wolcen, BG3? An action-heavy ARPG and a party-based deep-dive TSR-tradition RPG? They're not even vaguely comparable other than they're both fantasy, so why would I care? I wanted an action-heavy ARPG with more build options than D3 and fewer unnecessary complications than PoE. Wolcen is precisely that. It was NEVER about the hype for me. It was about a game that gave me what I wanted. Period.

I thought it was obvious pages back I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks about Wolcen. I bought the game when it was cheap and I'm pushing 600 hours now. These are facts. I enjoy it deeply. Also a fact. Does anything else really matter when it comes to a buy to play game? Does how you feel about it affect me? Nope. Does it affect the game? Nope. At worst it means support for it dwindles and if I'm happy with how it is now (give or take non-functioning passives, which I am dead sure they'll fix before almost anything else), then that doesn't bother me either.

You have to remember, I've sunk hundreds of hours into Titan Quest. Offline. And that game is *way* less action-orientated. Less polished. Less interesting really. Unlike a lot of you, my first ARPG experience was offline (Diablo 1 shareware), and the vast majority of my PoE play was alone. I am not an online creature when it comes to gaming, unless a really good game forces me to be, few and far between though they are. Sooo...this whole tribalism? The need to have others verify a game, to have others agree with me in order to feel good about playing a game? Yeah, I just don't have that. Far, far too many obscure games I've loved over the decades that pretty much no one heard of or perhaps liked for that to be a factor for me.

So...that's that. I am very selfish about this, because...why shouldn't I be? Got what I paid for. And then some. Someone else didn't? Not my monkey, not my circus.

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That said, some of the hilarious bugs I've seen on the reddit are the result of poor networking. No surprise there; the MP tech beta was pretty rough, and they weren't going to miraculously fix that in a few months. Wolcen's just fine alone, but there's no doubt once you start treating it like an MP game things start to really spiral out of control.

Makes sense, i picked you more for the character customization and role player type in which case BG3 seemed superior in my eyes.

It does miss out heavily on that direct action part but at least they moved away from the D:OS system of combat.

I guess like you described it, wolcen sits nicely in between D3 and PoE but damn does it lack polish as far as i am concerned. Hope they manage it in the upcomming months because its not like i don't want it to be what was advertised.

Peace,

-Boem-

edit : not sure what the whole rant-add-on was for, if you enjoy it then thats that.
And for the record i never touched wolcen online so i don't even know about networking issues.
Got a good 100 hours in solo i reckon and mostly enjoyed melee since it seems to require little to no calculations to be effective.(and yes, not crashing ups the enjoyment for me) So as far as i can tell they need a lot of work "under the hood" to make the game enjoyable.
I would rate the visual artists at a 9/10 and most others at a 5/10 on wolcen so far, but thats just my opinion, which like you said is irrelevant.

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deathflower wrote:

The easiest way to kill a tree would be to chop it down.

Be careful, this one has taken three lives.
Scarier than ol'Ralakesh himself.

Maybe you want to attack it and see damage numbers?
https://youtu.be/7ef2OUI8eBQ?t=1380

Shrubs are not trees. If your mum is a shrubbery, I will burn it.