Price fixing on xbox

GGG has an internal website for tade that is for PC only and it has allot of functions and works great.


Why they will not replicate that and have one for console only is beyond and logical reason. Pretty much a copy and paste and point to the data field that retains the console items( not the exact steps I know... but pretty dam close enough).

We can already interact act with our stash from out profile. Why not rebuild the trade Tab... yes look upits right there! Let us at least use its function and add the items to our list of pending trades. Shit no need to be fully functional and have it linked to our currency tab, that would make to much sense. Just let us search and add items that we want to bid on to our pending trade tab.

There's a dude on PS4 standard selling stacks of 20 fusings for 100jews

Phathetic (if you play ps4 you know what I did here lol)

things are getting crazy in console, there's only one voidfletcher in the xbox market for 12ex, some 6links armor & bows for 15ex and going up, doing that the game just get limited because even if you farm a lot you don't have the currency to some builds and when u have it the league will be over

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x Peleus x wrote:

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Is there a any to look for multiple stuff, like health and movement speed boots.

Yes. Use quotes around the specific terms you're looking for. Do not use commas between the words. For instance:

"mana" "intelligence" "of attack damage leeched as life"

etc. This will highlight every item in that base item category that has all of those strings present in its displayed properties as well as any other displayed text for that item. (IOW - ANY text at all that is set to display for that item will be included. That includes the item's description, the item's "name" created from the affix list, item quotes for Unique items, etc..)

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Is there a way to look for health in the amount of at least 80 or higher. Or resistance of least 40 or higher.

No. There is no function undertaken by the tool that requires poling of the entire database of items or any logical operations at all other than simple search strings that read the item's description which the game client has to do anyway in order to display the item... No Booleans allowed.

It is not a "filter."

It is a highlight tool.

A filter would "filter out" stuff... You still have to page through umpteennumpty pages of crap using this "tool." :/

And, if you page through enough, you can only go backwards so far. For instance, upon reaching 20 pages of searching through an item, or something like that, you can no longer page back to the first pages. Thirty pages? Can't page back to pages 1-10.. etc.


Honestly, I don't think GGG is capable of overcoming the issue we have with searching the Marketplace. I don't think they have the desire to undertake such an effort. I think they consider console players "spoiled" because we have a "one click instant-trade" marketplace and don't have to move our character to meet someone in order to buy an item. They are right in that respect... but, we make up for such senseless luxury by having a "search" feature that is nearly useless for anything but the most basic text-string searches.

They made promises. They said they'd make it easier for us to find items. They said they were going to give us tools to use that would be similar to what PC users could use. They made promises... They gave us a toggle and a very badly worded "Help" menu that lists only some of the switches/commands. Badly written and not even justified text? WTF? And, then they left the room and won't say a word about it...

Meanwhile, back on PC, you can find exactly what you're looking for. Yes, you do have to travel, usually to the seller's hideout or whatever (I guess). But, because we get a one-click marketplace we're supposed to shut-up and like it.

PS: If you have a good item that has a rare combination of stats that would be very desirable? And... it's going to be hidden in pile of craptastic gear in a base item list that nobody can search effectively? Don't plan on getting a good price for it. (Common Jewelry Bases, Common Jewels, etc.)

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Morkonan wrote:

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Mrnickwan wrote:

...Your entire comment is irrelevant. Stealing is different so not comparable. I'll state again, price fixing is not against the rules. Nothing you do or say will change that. Your personal morals or ethincs have nothing to do with anything, stop trying to use them as an argument. You then go on to talk about real life and actions taken outside of the video game. You've lost it mate, you really have.

No.

The ethical implication is very clear and is built into the presentation of the Marketplace. Perhaps you can't understand that?

The Marketplace lists items offered up "for sale."

An item with a listed "price" indicates that the seller is willing to sell that item to a buyer for the specified price.

If the seller refuses to sell the item to a potential buyer who meets the item's listed price, then the seller is violating the implicitly presented terms, supposedly shared by all, of the Marketplace. This would be an "unethical" act, provided that it wasn't simply oversight or accident on the seller's part.

If they are doing so in order to personally benefit from such unethical actions at the expense of potential buyers, the source of their currency and their goal, then that would be an act of questionable morality...

It's all very simple for those who understand what such systems imply and who can empathize with other human beings.

You may, of course, attempt to justify unethical and immoral acts however you wish. But, that doesn't make such justifications valid outside of your own codes of ethical or moral behavior. And, any attempts to rationalize breaking the implied rules of the Marketplace wouldn't be ethical and may even be immoral justifications.

I think it's important to note that the in-game "Marketplace" is one of the few instances in gameplay where "strangers" frequently interact with each other. It's the only "MMO" portion of the game. (Well, asside from the small instanced "Town" hubs, but that's much more limited.)

You keep talking about ethics and morals but I think that you're forgetting how they're both entirely individual. Your ethics and morals are different to the next person's ethics and morals and using them as an argument is ridiculous. You even state that our ethics and morals are different, yet continue to to try and use yours as an argument like yours are more valid than mine. Nice contradiction.

I'll state once again, price fixing is not against the rules. Any game with a community lead marketplace is open to manipulation, as is any marketplace in the real world. Get down from that morally just high horse of yours and smell the shit that is real life.

I'll also state again that you sir, have lost the god damn plot. Do us all a favour and go and play SSF and stop trying to interact with the community.

SSF.

Thread.

Price fixer messing up the price gouger fix immediately ggg!

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Mrnickwan wrote:

...I'll state once again, price fixing is not against the rules. Any game with a community lead marketplace is open to manipulation, as is any marketplace in the real world. Get down from that morally just high horse of yours and smell the shit that is real life.

The system is designed to present a product at a set price, should the seller choose to set a price. Purposefully listing a price on an item with no intent to sell it at that price and, further, to use such tactics to manipulate the power of others to purchase such items is... unethical and immoral. Unethical because it subverts the obvious intent of what could otherwise be a competitive Marketplace and immoral because one is doing that to purposefully cause other people harm for one's own personal gain.

It's a wrong thing to do just as it would be considered a wrong thing to do in "real life."

The reason that the marketplace is the way it is doesn't have anything to do with GGG's desire to allow you to manipulate it to the detriment of others, but because it's the best system they could put in place for consoles. At this point, however, there are not enough players participating in the marketplace for it be able to sustain itself against the focused efforts of those seeking to subvert it.

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I'll also state again that you sir, have lost the god damn plot. Do us all a favour and go and play SSF and stop trying to interact with the community.

No.

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Morkonan wrote:

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Mrnickwan wrote:

...I'll state once again, price fixing is not against the rules. Any game with a community lead marketplace is open to manipulation, as is any marketplace in the real world. Get down from that morally just high horse of yours and smell the shit that is real life.

The system is designed to present a product at a set price, should the seller choose to set a price. Purposefully listing a price on an item with no intent to sell it at that price and, further, to use such tactics to manipulate the power of others to purchase such items is... unethical and immoral. Unethical because it subverts the obvious intent of what could otherwise be a competitive Marketplace and immoral because one is doing that to purposefully cause other people harm for one's own personal gain.

It's a wrong thing to do just as it would be considered a wrong thing to do in "real life."

The reason that the marketplace is the way it is doesn't have anything to do with GGG's desire to allow you to manipulate it to the detriment of others, but because it's the best system they could put in place for consoles. At this point, however, there are not enough players participating in the marketplace for it be able to sustain itself against the focused efforts of those seeking to subvert it.

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I'll also state again that you sir, have lost the god damn plot. Do us all a favour and go and play SSF and stop trying to interact with the community.

No.

You complain about the current market board, could be worse we could have the system that PC started with in having to link a tab up to website and basically create a shop. Good luck sorting that shit.

And your moral and ethics standpoint is moot. Let's use your ice cream shop example:
If you own an ice cream shop and sell ice cream at 2$
And I move into a building up the street and set up an ice cream shop for 1$, is that immoral and unethical? No its f'ing business man. Dont like it? Pack up shop and move elsewhere, you cant call the police and say I'm scamming or stealing from you.

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Exisilium wrote:

You complain about the current market board, could be worse we could have the system that PC started with in having to link a tab up to website and basically create a shop. Good luck sorting that shit.

Any complaint from me would have to do with "Price Fixing." I don't see how GGG could significantly improve upon the current console Marketplace mechanics. A Buyout option would be nice, though. The point being - I only affirmed my dissatisfaction with the behavior of some players concerning the Marketplace.

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And your moral and ethics standpoint is moot. Let's use your ice cream shop example:
If you own an ice cream shop and sell ice cream at 2$
And I move into a building up the street and set up an ice cream shop for 1$, is that immoral and unethical? No its f'ing business man. Dont like it? Pack up shop and move elsewhere, you cant call the police and say I'm scamming or stealing from you.

There is no other Ice-Cream shop for me to go to. There is no "competitive" choice when the only market is controlled by "no competitive choice players." My will is being subsumed and redirected by the power of unscrupulous and selfish individuals... and that is A Bad Thing ™ for people to do to each other.

And look up the definition of "moot." (Sorry, but I had to point that out.)