[3.13 UPDATED] gr0bbs | Poison Blade Vortex | Budget Viable | Endgame 50Mil+ DPS | Video Guide

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c_labs wrote:

Hey i really like the build, having fun with it, one clarifying question. Is blood rage supposed to be activated by CWDT?

Thank you for the Content!

No I don't think so, Immortal-Call and CWDT should be a 2-link, unless you want to add Increase Duration into it, but no Blood Rage is used manually. At least for me that is.

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Laere wrote:

How's the defensive capabilities of this build?

Almost level 98 on my golemancer and I destroy everything in the game, looking to a build to the end the league and this seems like it might be it.

Defense is above average, but nothing comparable to Golemancer - the tank on that build is pretty tough to beat.

Clear speed on this is marginally faster than a Carrion golem setup, and a fair bit faster than a stone golem / primordial chain variant. Single target, a maxxed Carrion setup is still going to out-DPS this.

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ckp2906 wrote:

can you share your PoB?

Sure, here you go:

https://pastebin.com/Nk798c1W

I'm using Community Fork of PoB though, don't know how the import works in normal PoB.

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Kitsamaru wrote:

I'm quite confused, do I drop Skitterbots for Flesh and Stone in End-game, or do I drop Flesh and Stone for Skitterbots? I see Flesh & Stone in the PoB, but not in the Gem Setups after Impresence and such.

It depends on a few things. Do you have Enlighten 4 and do you use Aspect of the Spider (not everyone does, me for example)? I use Enlighten 4 and i use Skitterbots AND FaS (at least for heists, for Delirium i tried Herald of Purity instead, it gives a big dmg boost too).

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Kitsamaru wrote:

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c_labs wrote:

Hey i really like the build, having fun with it, one clarifying question. Is blood rage supposed to be activated by CWDT?

Thank you for the Content!

No I don't think so, Immortal-Call and CWDT should be a 2-link, unless you want to add Increase Duration into it, but no Blood Rage is used manually. At least for me that is.

No, and the blood rage was only something I used while leveling, you'll retire it long before endgame.

I'm running CWDT / Steelskin / Void Sphere for mapping, and CWDT / Steelskin / Desecrate for bosses without minions I can kill and use for the Diadem's feast of flesh.

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HornedTerrorist wrote:

Damn... ok, i just got very lucky... tried to buy it yesterday for 20ex, which was way too low... then the seller put it on for 100ex today... was trying to scrap every currency i got into ex, when he lowered it to 60ex.

First league ever i got sth like that. Was trying to get a Carcass jack with +4, but that was sitting at 140ex... now i even got currency left maybe for a double-mod Watcher's Eye.

My BV is level 34 now, btw...

Congrats on the skin! That's going to be seriously OP.

I'd love to know how long it takes to phase Sirus with level 34 BV. :)

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HornedTerrorist wrote:

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ckp2906 wrote:

can you share your PoB?

Sure, here you go:

https://pastebin.com/Nk798c1W

I'm using Community Fork of PoB though, don't know how the import works in normal PoB.

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Kitsamaru wrote:

I'm quite confused, do I drop Skitterbots for Flesh and Stone in End-game, or do I drop Flesh and Stone for Skitterbots? I see Flesh & Stone in the PoB, but not in the Gem Setups after Impresence and such.

It depends on a few things. Do you have Enlighten 4 and do you use Aspect of the Spider (not everyone does, me for example)? I use Enlighten 4 and i use Skitterbots AND FaS (at least for heists, for Delirium i tried Herald of Purity instead, it gives a big dmg boost too).

I am using community fork, but your PoB doesnt work still.

Do you have a recommended PoB i can follow? YOurs seems pretty niche based on your char

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grimjack68 wrote:

Clear speed on this is marginally faster than a Carrion golem setup, and a fair bit faster than a stone golem / primordial chain variant. Single target, a maxxed Carrion setup is still going to out-DPS this.

Are you sure about that? Never played a minion build except for HoA Mana Guardian when it was absolutely OP in 3.9... hm... Maybe i should try it. Do you maybe have a good build guide for that?

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I'd love to know how long it takes to phase Sirus with level 34 BV. :)

Not long... i don't use flasks (keep them for the last phase). Only activate my 10 blades, pop focus for increased ailment duration and start moving for withering step, to give him 10 Withered stacks. I don't even use totems anymore. Didn't stop time, but it feels like 4 seconds of damage, and then another ~5-10 seconds until he finishes his animation. Last phase sucks a bit, because even though we got those high dps numbers, we still need a few seconds ramp up time - enough time for him to get to another animation. But that's all he does.

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ckp2906 wrote:

I am using community fork, but your PoB doesnt work still.

Do you have a recommended PoB i can follow? YOurs seems pretty niche based on your char

Thought so. Pastebin has some problems atm, i noticed it with a few other pastebins i wanted to import that don't work either.

My skill tree is not THAT niche. Yeah, it is a bit personalized for my use, but there's nothing really fancy in there except the Lethal Pride jewel. I could even go for MORE DPS, if i'd take the upper cluster-setup near CI as my second cluster-setup, then i'd have a few skill points free for mor crit... but i'd miss out on some life nodes, and i'd like to at least stay at my 4.5k HP...

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BonJovii wrote:

Hi all, hope someone can help me check out my char to see if I can make any further improvements? I'm trying to go for 2 medium cluster jewels but I cant seem to set my tree up right to have enough skill points. Honestly i'm just at a lost first time playing poison build.

I'm currently running T15-16 maps but i'm dying way more and my damage seems lackluster.

Your DPS looks good enough for any maps when I load up your tree in POB.

Clusters are pretty easy once you figure it out. They mostly add DPS, with very little in the way of life. So take your existing tree, and pull off 20 points of DPS boosting nodes, then you have enough to socket a L/2m/2s cluster setup. Doing it a second time is a bit more challenging!

So on your tree, you would unspec Heartseeker, Fatal Toxins, Method to the Madness, Exceptional Performance, Growth and Decay, Resourcefulness, Atrophy... You may have to dip into the Scion life wheel to complete your second cluster jewel setup.

Getting killed on high level maps might be a playstyle challenge - poison doesn't play the same as many other types of builds. If you stop moving, you'll die. Keep a bunch of blades up by casting BV every few seconds, and run through everything. Most critters will die by the time you are a screen past them. Keep a close ear on your loot filter for juicy drops you want to run back and collect. Don't run directly at projectile mobs, run up beside them so they fire behind you, then circle or whirling blades through the pack after they've fired. Circle strafe bosses to get a big stack of poisons on them, then run off and watch them die from the degen.

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HornedTerrorist wrote:

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grimjack68 wrote:

Clear speed on this is marginally faster than a Carrion golem setup, and a fair bit faster than a stone golem / primordial chain variant. Single target, a maxxed Carrion setup is still going to out-DPS this.

Are you sure about that? Never played a minion build except for HoA Mana Guardian when it was absolutely OP in 3.9... hm... Maybe i should try it. Do you maybe have a good build guide for that?

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I'd love to know how long it takes to phase Sirus with level 34 BV. :)

Not long... i don't use flasks (keep them for the last phase). Only activate my 10 blades, pop focus for increased ailment duration and start moving for withering step, to give him 10 Withered stacks. I don't even use totems anymore. Didn't stop time, but it feels like 4 seconds of damage, and then another ~5-10 seconds until he finishes his animation. Last phase sucks a bit, because even though we got those high dps numbers, we still need a few seconds ramp up time - enough time for him to get to another animation. But that's all he does.

I played Golems last league, started with the stone golem / primordial chain variant, and switched over to Carrions with supporting animated guardian, spectres, and zombies. The DPS on a kitted Carrion setup is sick. AL8 Sirus phases before he can attack. It's the other meta this league, so decent gear prices are way up there - helmets are 80+ex, staff, wands, or sceptres are 100+. Like this build though, you can do all content with a pair of cold iron points.

Edit: Forgot to post a link to the build I used last league. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2826004/page/1