[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

what's the best next upgrade i should look for?
+1 skin of the loyal
or
enough reduced mana reserved (1% jewels and helmet enchant) to use determination instead of skitterbot for simulacrum?

Thanks to everyone who's theorycrafted this build. I've been playing variants of it for the last couple of leagues now and it#s been a ton of fun min/maxing it.
The ability to constantly tweak it is literally the only reason I've carried on playing. Even now, I still have a shield upgrade and the corrupted armor to work on.
I've found that I prefer having that extra utility & clout of the Herald of Purity over the skitterbots this league. That chill/shock just doesn't quite compensate for the stupidity of the delirium mob over balancing this league. Quite simply, I've found that I die less with HoP than with Skitterbots.

Despite the enjoyment of the build though, I'm finding it a really tough struggle to keep going this league. This has to easily be the worst ever league I've experienced since I first started playing back in Harbinger, and yes personally I find this worse than even Synthesis (and I NEVER thought I'd be saying that).

This bloody Delirium content is totally ridiculous in my humble opinion. Not the overtuned mobs, I can handle fighting mobs all day long - that takes some skill and is enjoyable. No, the effin stupid invisible bloody ground effects & bubbles around condensed mobs. I've lost count of my deaths to invisible bubbles and crap I cannot even see.

I've enjoyed my time in PoE, and the most fun tbh I've had is with this build since I started so thank you OP and workers on the build thereafter; but I think this is going to be my last ever league. I just really do not like the direction that GGG are going in. More and more invisible killers and non-mob damage. It's sheer programming laziness, and I find it no fun to be fighting invisible puddles on the ground, rather than bosses or mobs. It's time for this exile to find another game who have a more enthusiastic and fresh team of devs not beholden to a large corporate paymaster (i.e. just like the GGG of olden days).

Cheers everyone.

Until the league ends, once again I can offer Stoneskin Flayers if anyone loses theirs while I am online. However, I will not be inviting to h/o unless I have cleared the map I am working on (due to 2 people reading my prior offers in this thread and then coming to my h/o and map stealing).

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Maelstromicus wrote:

Thanks to everyone who's theorycrafted this build. I've been playing variants of it for the last couple of leagues now and it#s been a ton of fun min/maxing it.
The ability to constantly tweak it is literally the only reason I've carried on playing. Even now, I still have a shield upgrade and the corrupted armor to work on.
I've found that I prefer having that extra utility & clout of the Herald of Purity over the skitterbots this league. That chill/shock just doesn't quite compensate for the stupidity of the delirium mob over balancing this league. Quite simply, I've found that I die less with HoP than with Skitterbots.

Despite the enjoyment of the build though, I'm finding it a really tough struggle to keep going this league. This has to easily be the worst ever league I've experienced since I first started playing back in Harbinger, and yes personally I find this worse than even Synthesis (and I NEVER thought I'd be saying that).

This bloody Delirium content is totally ridiculous in my humble opinion. Not the overtuned mobs, I can handle fighting mobs all day long - that takes some skill and is enjoyable. No, the effin stupid invisible bloody ground effects & bubbles around condensed mobs. I've lost count of my deaths to invisible bubbles and crap I cannot even see.

I've enjoyed my time in PoE, and the most fun tbh I've had is with this build since I started so thank you OP and workers on the build thereafter; but I think this is going to be my last ever league. I just really do not like the direction that GGG are going in. More and more invisible killers and non-mob damage. It's sheer programming laziness, and I find it no fun to be fighting invisible puddles on the ground, rather than bosses or mobs. It's time for this exile to find another game who have a more enthusiastic and fresh team of devs not beholden to a large corporate paymaster (i.e. just like the GGG of olden days).

Cheers everyone.

Until the league ends, once again I can offer Stoneskin Flayers if anyone loses theirs while I am online. However, I will not be inviting to h/o unless I have cleared the map I am working on (due to 2 people reading my prior offers in this thread and then coming to my h/o and map stealing).

hello, can u share with me? the stoneskin flayers

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7514630 wrote:

hello, can u share with me? the stoneskin flayers

Sure, I'm more than happy to share, but you'd need to check that I'm online first... when you posted this I was offline

My charname is DelirMael, just do a "/whois delirmael" first to see if I'm online then whisp me. I'll whisper back when I am free.

Hey, i started playing this build, but after getting a 6L bow i decided to try it with rain arrow (can't keep 50 in single target) or barrage (can keep 60 virulence on any target number) and felt quite good. Got a bow with +1 level to socketed gems, +1 level to socketed dexterity gems and +2 level to socketed support gems. So a level 20 gem Herald of Agony socketed in this bow became level 27. And for quiver i'm wearing Soul Strike which gives me 120 es and 80% faster start of energy shield recharge, and because of that, Wicked Ward (I had no life or es regen before anyway).

And also i'm running Incandescent Heart body armour, to completely negate 25% of elemental damage taken, since we're immune to chaos. And it gives a good amount of armour and es.

I'm not using hatred yet because i have only 5% free mana with 4 heraldry, 38% reduced herald from circle and level 3 enlighten. Also didn't picked any reduced mana reserv from tree yet, i'm still level 75 and doing great in early red tier maps. Killing bosses in 3 seconds and tanking considerably good. Got 10k armour and 6K es now, but still have a lot to allocate in tree and improvements on gear.

I'm also using minions large cluster because without hatred would be a waste using lightning. I've got 2x rotten claws giving 40% impale chance to minions (total 67% with dread banner), which is a nice damage boost, around 40% more phys damage. And 2x Raze and Pillage which is a great damage boost too.

I'm leaving the PoB bellow so you can take a look, and since PoB doesn't calculate virulence after 40 stacks, i added the bonuses to a jewel alongside bonuses from clusters which PoB doesnt calculate, to get a more real info. My question is: do you think this version of this build is even with yours? I mean, i'm leveling this mainly to kill Sirus (my main is a coc icenova and can't kill sirus at all even running deathless simulacrum and 5 orbs delirium t16). I really wanna know if this way i'll be much behind in damage or tankyness, what would be sad because i really like this bow playstile. Reminds me from World of Wacraft Beastmastery Hunter.

https://pastebin.com/hWygXb25

Please and thank you for your awesome guide, the most detailed i've ever read. And sorry for my english, it isn't my native language.

Little Trick to Store Spectres on another fast character as a "Backup"

This isn't my idea, nor is it a new idea; but I suspect some of the newer players might not have heard of it.

1. Get your Stoneskin Flayers (or whatever specialist spectres you want) on your MAIN

2. Buy a level 1 raise spectre & desecrate from the vendor & something super cheap & low level to shove them in.

2. Make a PvP Character (make sure you have a spare character slot)

3. PvP characters are "born" level 28, so allocate Death Attunement in the tree.

4. Switch back to your main in your hideout. Desecrate a few puddles of Flayers.

5. Switch to your PvP toon and summon 2 of your flayers or whatever spectre.

6. Go back to your main and play, safe in the knowledge that you have a "backup" in case you lose your spectres due to silliness like enchanting the helm that you have your RS gem in.

Hope this helps out some newer guys.

one question
how Kyuhlee get 11k dps in pob? even with his gear my pob doens't show this damage
there is something I missing?

Is there a variant of this build that will work in Standard, or are the cluster nodes essential to make this build work post-nerf?

Hello again, I got to level 346 Mine and reached the Primeval Fortress, but I cannot defeat the Crystal King he either strait up 2-3 shots me, or I die to crystal stuff on the ground.
I watched the fight but I just believe I die to easily is this a weakness of the build or am I doing something wrong.
Also there is burning ground in the room and I am forced to take soul of Aberath otherwise there are just 2 many ground effects.

Any ideeas?

P.S.

IF anyone needs Stonekin Flayers pls send me a msg in game.

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An1m4ls_ wrote:

one question
how Kyuhlee get 11k dps in pob? even with his gear my pob doens't show this damage
there is something I missing?

POB doesn't count additional virulence stacks from cluster jewels. To get 60 stacks in pob you need to manually add the damage and atack speed to some jewel or smth like that.