[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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Besovskii wrote:

last baeclast https://dd.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ffb5ql/baeclast_54_delirium_dev_talk_with_rory_neon/
Nerfs to common "OP" builds like Summoner, Mana Guardian, Hoag

Let's pray for the best. It would be a real shame if they nerfed this build into the ground.

To me, this build requires a decent amount of investment to be end-game viable (must-have uniques) and a steady investment to become OP (level 31 hoag, mana reservation gearcheck) which is what a well-balanced build should aspire to.

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1:34:50 - Mana Guardians (especially Radiant Crusade), Herald of Agony, very large sources of Mana, Grand Spectrum, and a couple of other Uniques he can't think of right now will be getting nerfed. The goal is to promote normal Mana builds and nerf the excessive Mana builds.

1:37:35 - Shaper's Touch and Geofri's Sanctuary will be getting nerfed.

https://dd.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ffkwkk/highlights_from_the_delirium_baeclast_episode_54/

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Besovskii wrote:

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1:34:50 - Mana Guardians (especially Radiant Crusade), Herald of Agony, very large sources of Mana, Grand Spectrum, and a couple of other Uniques he can't think of right now will be getting nerfed. The goal is to promote normal Mana builds and nerf the excessive Mana builds.

1:37:35 - Shaper's Touch and Geofri's Sanctuary will be getting nerfed.

https://dd.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ffkwkk/highlights_from_the_delirium_baeclast_episode_54/

This build is so out of line a 20% nerf in damage and durability still makes it tier 1.

I just hope they don't change radiant faith / herald of agony to something completely different.

In conjunction with the shaper's touch nerf I am hoping for something like going from 18K energy shield to 15K, 2.4 million shaper damage to 1.8 million.

The current build strength, whether it is 12K energy shield, 10 million shaper damage or 30K energy shield, 1 million shaper damage is simply absurd.

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This build is so out of line a 20% nerf in damage and durability still makes it tier 1.

It will still be very viable in HC but I am not sure about SC, especially because we don't know how severe the nerfs will be.

They are also talking about HoAG nerfs because, lets face it, it is one of the only high DPS skill left that doesn't really need to be scaled to deal with most things quickly.

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mickygotbigballs wrote:

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This build is so out of line a 20% nerf in damage and durability still makes it tier 1.

It will still be very viable in HC but I am not sure about SC, especially because we don't know how severe the nerfs will be.

They are also talking about HoAG nerfs because, lets face it, it is one of the only high DPS skill left that doesn't really need to be scaled to deal with most things quickly.

I am hoping for a 20% nerf instead of build destroying change.

Played quite a few other tier 1 builds and quickly realized the non-glass canon version of these builds can't beat Herald of Agony in real world damage. When you are dodging boss mechanisms, you are not doing damage.

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Played quite a few other tier 1 builds and quickly realized the non-glass canon version of these builds can't beat Herald of Agony in real world damage.

Yeah, the combination of insane tankyness and actual boss dps is just too much. Historically when they nerfed a skill and it was still used heavily after that they doubled down on the nerfs (see WO).

In the best case scenario this build will be "normalized", in the worst case they could nerf every single aspect of the build individually and destroy it.

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mickygotbigballs wrote:

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Played quite a few other tier 1 builds and quickly realized the non-glass canon version of these builds can't beat Herald of Agony in real world damage.

Yeah, the combination of insane tankyness and actual boss dps is just too much. Historically when they nerfed a skill and it was still used heavily after that they doubled down on the nerfs (see WO).

In the best case scenario this build will be "normalized", in the worst case they could nerf every single aspect of the build individually and destroy it.

Herald of Agony already got multiple nerfs between Delve and Synthesis, but tbh so did Storm Brand and few other skills that people just kept using and using, especially for purposes like racing, speed levelling and building full tank with no dps investment and still clearing all the content. Molten strike was in the gutter whole Legion and Blight and only got slight reversal of nerfs in Metamorph because back in Synthesis people abused it on full tank Juggs and GGG didn't like it.

If they want to lower the base damage of minions, they need to increase ways of scaling minion damage.

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Lone Messenger
You can only have one Herald
50% more Effect of Herald Buffs on you
100% more Damage with Hits from Herald Skills
50% more Damage Over Time with Herald Skills
Minions from Herald Skills deal 25% more Damage
Your Aura Skills are Disabled

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Cult-Leader
Minions deal 35% increased Damage while you are affected by a Herald

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Pure Agony
+1 to maximum number of Sentinels of Purity
+5 to Maximum Virulence
Minions deal 20% increased Damage while you are affected by a Herald

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Disciples
1% additional Physical Damage Reduction per Summoned Sentinel of Purity
You lose Virulence 30% slower
Minions deal 20% increased Damage while you are affected by a Herald

(Virulence is granted by the Herald of Agony Skill)

That seems huge but what about your aura skills are disable?

Guys the league starter is HoA + herald of purity.