[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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I guess we also have to replace Spirit Offering and Feeding Frenzy now. Any early ideas?

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hitmantb wrote:

Wow, this was the biggest single patch nerf to a build in a very long time. I guess I was right when I said this was the best all around build in the game. I tried pretty much all other meta builds and nothing came close unless you are a ranger player who can solo Aul without taking a single hit.

Taking my current character with 18K energy shield, 2.4 million shaper damage, I will end up with 11K energy shield, 1.8 million shaper damage. Still a tier 2 character in my opinion, and may move back into tier 1 if we can replace some of the items below with new notables.

1) Shaper's Touch - Halved the benefit of mana and energy shield gain
2) Grand Spectrum - Now gives critical chance instead of mana, can be replaced by rare expensive jewels
3) Tempered Spirit - Now gives movement speed instead of mana
4) Soul Ripper spam on Vaal Molten Shield is not a thing any more, this basically says if you want to deep delve, be good at the game and play a ZHP ranger build, this will ensure tank builds can not go above 1200

Spirit offering no longer gives Necromancer insane regen, not to mention a huge buffer for skeletons and zombies, skeleton damage also nerfed by 40% so our main competition in Necromancer is significantly weaker as well.

As a standard-only player it will be very difficult for me to maintain this guide. If anyone wants to take over this guide feel free to use some or all of it. I may just take a league off and come back when notables hit standard.

I will be very curious to see which ascendancy/build takes the throne of Necromancer and Guardian. My early pick is Essence Drain and Cyclone with all the new notables. Golem summoner is still good.

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Tinuvar wrote:

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I guess we also have to replace Spirit Offering and Feeding Frenzy now. Any early ideas?

Do you used feeding frenzy in your 6link? i dont see why it has to be replaced.

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Icebanana7 wrote:

No, I have feeding frenzy linked to my spectres. I misread the patch notes and thought feeding frenzy now does not give any damage buff to all minions. But you are correct, only the minions from supported skills, so in my case the spectres, will not get the damage buff from now on so its probably still good.

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scrambled777 wrote:

Feeding Frenzy has two buffs, it has the temporary buff that may get applied on hit which gives damage and speed buffs to all minions. It also has a second permanent buff of more minion damage to only the minion skill it is linked to.

The permanent buff is gone and the temporary buff has been improved (44% chance from 25% chance) so overall this is a buff to HoAG since we only used the spectres to proc the temporary buff and never cared about the other one.

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CutieSabba wrote:

Herald of Agony
Agony Crawler now deals 5% increased physical damage per Virulence you have at gem level 1 (from 6%), up to 9% at gem level 20 (from 12%).
this is nothing tbh
This was needed cause of the jewel that gives +5 virulence stacks

the spirit offering nerf is a bit yikes i guess but even so we used it more for dmg then anything else
the spectres nerf and this makes it so they are more squishy i guesss

the grandspectrum nerf is big but yah with the new jewels you can make it so its not that big
since you can get insane stats with them
shapers touch prob will still be bis i think
but yah in general we are the same
happy they didnt nerfed us that much