[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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HDTanel wrote:
Guys im having a huuuge problem keeping Spectres alive through most T15-16 maps at Awakener 4.. I still don´t have the Delve minions as I havent done any Delve at all this league yet..

Are the Delve ones so much more tankier that they will not die?

Mostly pretty decent build, although Metamorphs take hours to kill if they don´t kill all my portals but Im still at lvl18 gems without qual.. so I guess thats why I don´t have deeps or life :P

Should I get ES leech or something to sustain my ES through big hits?


You are not using Enlighten so you can't use hatred + skitter, also missing 2-3 levels on Herald of Agony alone. So that is 40-50% damage. Death mark will hurt your clearing speed when you are undergeared, obviously you have to mark the boss as well otherwise you get a big drop off.

Single white socket skin of royal is pretty cheap and people are not searching for it, 1EX will get you ideal color:

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Metamorph/opy7DYYUl

I have been using carnage chieftains for the last week or so, feeding frenzy and minion life for a while and as long as you press and hold convocation they do just fine. If you don't have delve spectres just replace meat shield with minion life, the spirit offering spam thing is really strong high 60K health spectres.
Last edited by hitmantb#6251 on Jan 12, 2020, 2:11:42 PM
I'd always use Stoneskins, I used the dudes from Arena map before that (the ones that make enough noise to wake the dead, again) and I've had only 1-2 stoneskins die a few times. Certainly they never died in normal mapping.

Anyway I'm gonna hop online. If anyone has build-related questions or wants Spectres, I'm always free to answer quests/provide spectres if I'm online.


I am mostly using him for deep delving but right now at 350 I am starting to die occasionally (16k es), any tweaks to optimize the build for delving?

Auras right now are discipline, hatred, clarity and hoag.

I was thinking about changing the oil annointment that would probably help. The only major upgrades I am missing are the clarity watchers eye and a better wand.

Another question regarding the timeless jewel: Only blocking 50% of the damage will result in an interruption of the energy shield recharge, right? So using that one for delve would not be useful at all, would it?
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Ondrugs wrote:
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hitmantb wrote:


Mana Guardian caught the POE world by storm when POEDan took it to a whopping 1359 hardcore delve level in Legion. He had something like 27K energy shield, 40K armor, and well over 1 million in Shaper DPS.

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So far I got the starter gear + some of the high priority upgrades:

-11715 ES with 8977 Mana
-31173 Armour (80%)
-528.2 - 4041 life reg
-overcapped resistances
-24% block chance for attacks + 8% for spells I miss the lethal pride jewel
-I also miss the boots with "cannot be frozen"

Without level 4 enlighten which is actually one of the core items, you'd need at least 4 jewels with "#% reduced mana reserved" corrupted to get the mana reservation on 0% and even so, it will not allow us to use skitter bots and hatred which is a huge loss in damage, through shock. SO ENLIGHTEN LEVEL 4 IS A MUST HAVE FOR THE BUILD ACTUALLY.

I got 4 spectres and yet the build is immune to most chaos damage, has no problems with phys but feels like paper in the wind. If you are not going for the pantheon which grants stun immunity, you get easily stunned to death. if you get the ascendancy "Bastion of Hope" instead of "unwavering Crusade", which you should only take if you get a mod "10% chance to intimidate enemies", I'd loose about 140k dps,.... it takes like aeons to actually kill something. especially bosses on a T15-16. A cannot regen map is overkill for this build from what I experience, so I wonder why the con's didn't said that.

The point is, if I feel with 5 ex+ investment like I would play a 20c character, it feels not satisfying and enjoyable at all. I would be interested in the guy who plays -1000 delve with that,....




Your gloves aren't 4 linked so you aren't getting enlighten on your hatred. I'd drop flesh and stone and run skitterbots. Flesh and stone isnt' needed till you're deep in delve. First upgrades should be 21 Herald and level 4 empower. Also put poacher's mark in your wand so your herald can have frenzy charges which adds a lot as well. Drop time of need as with coil you are shock/ignite immune anyway. That let's you pick up Bastion of Hope. You also don't have a kiloava jewel which is why your block is so low. Level the rest of your gems to 20. Doing all that puts you at about 2 mil dps if the boss has adds, trash clearing even higher. If you can't afford an enlighten 4 keep using flesh and stone and that still leaves you at 1.9 mil dps.
hi! can someone pls explain how i get the 4 spectre? i dont get it yet :/

thanks for the answer
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hitmantb wrote:


If you don't mind, please try to record a video of either Sirus 9 or Uber Elder on awaken 8 that at least match CTSabba's time, so we can see an apple to apple comparison.

Here is a Necromancer one using their highest skeleton damage build which took 2:49: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA3mVy-d9hs

If you remove CTSabba's Sirus talk/intro, which the Necromancer build doesn't have, they are within 10 seconds of each other. I am not convinced Guardian Skeleton boss damage is better than Herald of Agony, level 31 on both side. And Herald of Agony obviously has advantage on mapping speed.

Now if both builds are at least equal on damage, you have 27K energy shield and that is a huge advantage.

Also for some reason when I import your character you have 19K energy shield, do you have a recent POB?


I bought +1 gloves this morning and gained some points on the tree, re-routed a few things and was able to snag sanctuary for block and all res. Here is the updated PoB: https://pastebin.com/9PGexfjh

26.1k ES
5.8m DPS for melee splash
8.6m DPS with ruthless

Higher overcapped res than before, higher block (75% attack, 42% spell)

Let me know what you think of it vs before, I just did it with orb of regrets on my character instead of PoB lol.
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iflexdienida wrote:
hi! can someone pls explain how i get the 4 spectre? i dont get it yet :/

thanks for the answer

3 from lvl 25 skill and 1 from passive
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Huansdreck wrote:


I am mostly using him for deep delving but right now at 350 I am starting to die occasionally (16k es), any tweaks to optimize the build for delving?

Auras right now are discipline, hatred, clarity and hoag.

I was thinking about changing the oil annointment that would probably help. The only major upgrades I am missing are the clarity watchers eye and a better wand.

Another question regarding the timeless jewel: Only blocking 50% of the damage will result in an interruption of the energy shield recharge, right? So using that one for delve would not be useful at all, would it?


Blocking with the shield gives you shield regen. The jewel also doubles your block. You're missing quite a bit of damage from 2 levels of Herald so part of your prob could be mobs living longer than you'd like. Raise spectre is 20 and not 21 so as far as I know you only have 3 spectres and the agony crawler so no onslaught for you and minions. I'm honestly not sure if discipline is worth it. You could try out skitter bots instead. You'd lose 4k es but can shock damage and auto chill enemies for safety. All of these changes would add almost a mil damage I believe. I'm only at 250 depth though so take all that as you will.
I have now two Lethal Prides,

one with:

10% chance to Intimidate Enemies for 4 seconds
20% increased Stun Duration on Enemies
30% increased Melee Critical Strike Chance
Ingites you inflict deal Damage 10% faster

or

20% increased Physical Damage
20% increased Physical Damage
5% Chance to double Damage
15% Melee Critical Strike Multiplier


which one should i use? in the Guide it says the first one because of Chance to Intimidate. And then go from Unwavering Crusade to Time of Need. Is this realy a Damage Buff? Because Unwavering Crusade is alot of more Minion Damage.

And by the way, anyone can help me what to change next on my Gear?
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hitmantb wrote:


Single white socket skin of royal is pretty cheap and people are not searching for it, 1EX will get you ideal color:

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Metamorph/opy7DYYUl



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