3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game
" As someone who has followed the guide from the beginning and not realised it won't be a sustainable build, what changes from this build would you recommend? Is there another build that actually works similar to this one? |
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" This is so true. i wish they acknowledge that this is no longer a strong build . Minimum 20 ex is required for the build to do yellow maps and 30 for red and 50 probably to do A8 sirius deathless/simalcrum deathles. Everyone does not know crafting. we buy slightly expensive items at the cost of spending 10 hrs learning and experimenting. Even the basic cluster jewel large with 1 socket are in the price range of 100 -150 chaos at least. Even i have asked for help at least 4-5 times and only twice did someone get back to me with advice, if you scroll last 20 pages anyone can see the amount of questions vs amount of answers are liek 95:5 GGG has offically nerfed this build to the ground and anyone saying otherwise please prove it by defeating Uber Elder/A8 Sirius with just 5 exalts gear ( CURRENT MARKET PRICE) not what you bought at league start. i feel guilty af for investing so much currency in this build but i'm so used to the play style since 2 leagues that after 6 months you still want to try and make it work somehow. i hope OP and others either find solutions and stop flexing with what they built when the cost associated are 20-50 exalts.. an average POE player makes 10-20 ex's on an average per league.. i know because i'm an admin of the path of exile play pit facebook page and daily the questions /information we come across gives us a basic idea how people are performing this league.. funny part is every summoner there is confused too :D Really hate Maven as a boss and its mechanics! pls give us something cool like Elder/Shaper
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Just like almost every build in PoE, the need to craft high-end items and extremely good gear is needed for many end-game events.
What many miss when complaining about this build is it was created when Necro's were extremely OP and could do end game events with little investment. Now thigs have changed a lot. brunowa and others have kept this thread updated as best they could, in fact, better than many build guides I have seen, Thanks to all of you !! Yes it can now cost a lot of ex to do a great build, no surprise, this is PoE after all. I remember Demigods Purple People eater slayer I did sometime ago, I spent a ton on that one also, crap his 2-Hander is mirror quality and would prolly cost 100+ ex + a mirror. brunowa and others and some very good items, some are next to impossible to find like the watchers eye. I love them showcasing their builds as it shows us what is possible if you really work for it. I have been thinking of selling my 2-Hander and play around with dual wands, because thats the nature of PoE, keep changing things up, try new things and builds. Keep complaining about not being able to do end-game with a Tabula now, fact is we could at one time, GGG fixed that, but you can still get pretty far with one. Grind grind grind for currency to be able to buy or craft BIS gear, thats what PoE is all about. Thanks all for keeping this build updated and giving us all something fun to play and work on :) |
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I really like the build and guess i'm gonna play it next league too. My gear ATM:
can you tell what should I min-max next? also what do you think about bow+quiver insted of staff? Bow loses fortify but can craft "minions deal +100% damage" and quiver can give some HP too. |
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GUYS, it's called "Grinding Gear Games" for a reason...
What else are u gonna do with all the currency you accumulate if you call do all contents on 5ex budget? Min/Max costs $$$$ with every build, and if you are too lazy to farm then do market trades; ie. buy cards, trade in, sell items. Now the time you spend your time typing your complains on here you could have finished couple maps and maybe gotten couple exalts worth of items. Fyi, change your item filter to very strict or uber strict so you stop wasting time picking up trash. |
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Wondering if any of the other advanced guys could tell me what i should upgrade next? awakener slammed my neck today, could be better could be worse.
This is my first league back making it to a point where i can kill endgame bosses (yep i'm a nub with too much irl stuff to deal with who could only play hardcore when we dealt with "is it uber atziri viable though?") I have a few elder/shaper sets ready to go, i died on phase 3 to A4 sirus in the speed build so i don't really want to use the sets if i can upgrade something quick first. I have around 16 ex to play with. Was thinking of maybe awake slamming a belt? Rings are extremely hard to come by and i have a 320% hubris so not sure if i need them too much. Last edited by acidytrips#1773 on Apr 4, 2020, 12:22:27 PM
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" What auras do u keep on? I'm trying to figure out how to keep Discipline on, all the mana adds up to > 100% Do you run Discipline (non vaal), Purity of Elements, Flesh and Stone, Dread Banner and Avian at the same time? |
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I agree that its not as new players/budget/endgame friendly as its advertized, that was maybe possible before the nerfs. The biggest problem I see with other players posting here isnt as much the gear cost to be able to do red tier, but the build understanding and mechanics, like people putting unrelated gems, dont give them quality, trying to run aspect fo the avian on tanky gear setup and not having mana for it, trying to buy rare items like rings/belts /amulet with resists and life when in reality the tanky setup is centered around strength scalling, from strength you get all the life/es you need while you can pretty easily cap your resistances from passive three and ascendencies. What you really need to be able to go red maps and even sirius 4-6 is: a good 6l weapon for the build (10-11 ex, this is the main cost), empower lv4 (3ex), raise zombie lv21/20% (just farm it like probably everyone else did, farm 6 of them in off hand weapons and then corrupt), the baron (cheap), alberon wrathpath (with 18% inc strength, also cheap) and at least 5l geofri sanctuary (even a 6l is less than 3 ex). For rares you dont need crazy stats, just look for rings/belts with as much strength as you can and some resitances (forget chaos res/life/es rolls, prioritize strength). Use astramentis with death attunement enchant if you can, this is the best uniq in place for tanky setup, only consider using another rare amulet if you have 20+ex to add to the build. And also 2 efficient training (cheap). Thats it, I did tier 16 + sirius up to level 6 without enlightened lv4 (i didnt use any until i bought lv4 and added flesh and stone aura)/ animate guardian or other expensive gear. So all in all you really need 15-20ex to beat half of the endgame (you can beat elder easy/ shaper a bit harder bcs zombies die more easily to his beam). For sirius 7+ and uber elder yes, you probably need better gear, but for those endgame bosses you need to spend a lot with any build. All in all the main problem is that this build is very versatile, and you can reach 1k strength without many problems with the gear i told before, BUT you need to be able to navigate the passive three to balance the build where you lack from gear. And dont expect other player to read this forum all the time and answer all your questions, they too want to play the gameand bcs even I see day after day people macking questions that are either answered in front page build guide (that they apparently didnt read whole) or 2-3 pages before by someone else. Yes this build is not really new players friendly or brain dead (like maybe it was, i dont know, first league playing it) but you also can make it work on semi budget (15-20ex) if you know how to balance it.
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" What if they cast at the same time? the buff duration is 4 seconds and they do it once every 12 seconds. So for the buff to have 100% uptime u need 3 of them and they need to cast it in a sequence of 4 seconds apart from each other. |
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" this is all sort of fake what u are posting Only the weapons , 2 hander will cost u 10 exalts, 2x wands even more, gems aint even gonna speak, this build, to farm reliable, is very exalt thirsty. With a quarter of what is worth i can make a archmage brand build that is a 2 second conqueror on level 8 , instant phase Uber elder and more. With just 20 exalts..... also , nearly damn immortal Op should state that all his testings are done in standard so players know what is this all about [img]https://imgur.com/a/GRkTKl6[/img]
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