3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game
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What auras do u keep on? I'm trying to figure out how to keep Discipline on, all the mana adds up to > 100%
Do you run Discipline (non vaal), Purity of Elements, Flesh and Stone, Dread Banner and Avian at the same time?
I can run all of them having 14 mana left for free (picked nodes in passive treen for reduced mana reserved) but i dont need that many resistances so i'm switching off purity of elements. Maybe I can switch it for some useful aura?
Edit: NVM, Thanks, did not see your baron helmet had a good enchant. 20% mana reserved for discipline
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If you don't mind can you let me know if you speced into anything else beside the Sovereignty, mana reserved passives? or the current % mana reserved cost for each skill?
I'm taking all 3 of them so it gives 14% reduced mana reserved (with lvl4 englighten)
Dread Banner - 9
Purity of Elem - 26
Flesh and Stone - 22
Discipline - 26
Avian - 22
This adds up to 105% for me.
You have tanky setup, we DONT run avian, bcs we need space for other auras you mentioned. Avian is run by speed setup
i understand that. i was simply pointing out that the op's build was alot more than 50exa....meaning the op isnt flexing a 20-50 exa build hes flexing a 200+ exa build. which just helps re-confirm his point that the op's build is not a cost viable build for the majority of players
Last edited by damoose222#6070 on Apr 4, 2020, 1:20:54 PM
You have tanky setup, we DONT run avian, bcs we need space for other auras you mentioned. Avian is run by speed setup
Thankss for the the help. I guess i can use avian for killing regular mobs and Discipline when fighting strong ones.
It just got me a bit confused, since the tanky weapon has Avian on it, i assumed we wanted it on.
The wepaon has the avian bcs after ggg nerfed multimode, once you craft the weapon it will have 1 suffix free in any case, so might as well craft avian there with beast craft, this way the weapon can be used by both types of the build. But again with tanky setup you dont need avian
Hi,
cant find this mod on poeaffix.c om
Socketed Gems are supported by level 1 fortify
Can someone tell me pls, wether this is a suffix or a prefix. Thank you
Addressing Brunova, Elorathiel, struggling necromancer and this build in general
1) to Brunova
You've done an amazing job, spent a lot of time not only playing and testing this build, but also editing, writing about it, really. However, you havent played it this league, you dont know how difficult (or not) Delirium is, even when you try to decrease the quality of your gear and show how awesome this build still is, the rest of your gear is still almost God-tier.
I'm sorry, but as someone said before, it seems like a cheap scam. Because it is. You either state in the description that it is standard build or that you need to HEAVILY invest in it to farm red maps with no problems. It's not for newbies and new players.
It is NOT the most powerful build anymore, you CANT (anymore) put your Raised Zombies in the Tabula and go kick some ass.
Sorry, but that't the truth. I'm kind of sad seeing inexperienced PoE players getting influenced by your posts how crazy this build is and then getting destroyed in yellow maps and not understand why.
Who needs guides? Who asks questions? Who struggles? New or inexperienced players. This build is not for them. And you should state that.
2) to Elorathiel
Man, stop flexing. Seriously. A struggling necromancer appears, says he cant do Simulacrum and then out of nowhere you show up and demonstrate that this build is great, you've done 20th wave with no problem, here is proof, bla-bla-bla...
How many exalts you invested? 70? 80? 100? Your wands are at least 10ex each. Your chest is how much? 15-20? Two jewels 7-8ex each? Enlighten/Empower lvl4, Zombies/Spectres/AG lvl21, awakened melee physical 8ex, ect, ect, ect. Of course you can do t16 100% delirious!
ANY BUILD IN POE can do ANY CONTENT if you invest a lot of currency. In case somebody didnt know.
And dont you say to me, you dont need that kind of gear to do all the content...YES YOU DO. May be not to that extend, but you MUST invest heavily in the build to work as it supposed to. 5% dps here, 4% there, another 3% there and it all adds up to 100% more dps, 100% more zombie HP. Yes, it actually does.
I played this build from the start, invested at least 40ex for it to play more or less comfortably, so I know what I'm talking about.
3) to struggling and new necromancers
This build is not cheap at all. I would even say it is very expensive. Not mirror-tier, but still. If you think you can pick up a 5link or a Tabula, invest 1-2-3 ex (or even 5) and go farm red maps, sorry, I have bad news for you. Budget setup doesnt work anymore. Dont start with it if dont have AT LEAST 20ex.
If you're patient, ready to farm white/yellow maps to build up tens of exalts and progress it further and further after tens of hours of playing, yes, of course you can do it. But that's the only way.
Most important points about getting this build where is HAS to be:
1) Many people said it and I repeat - 1000 strength. Dont bother even mapping without them. It is very easily achieved with Efficient training jewel and gear with "to strength"
2) 22 lvl zombies (20 from gem, 2 from ascendancy) are SHITE. You need to have at least 27-28. 30 is optimal. Either through +1/+1 wands or crafted two-handed. This is when you'll feel a HUGE difference in both - suitability of your zombies and dps. Yes, I've done t16 map with lvl 25 Zombies, but I cant say I was comfortable playing like this.
3) Forget about Tabula or a 5link if you're progressing to high tier yellow or even red maps. You need something better.
4) Dressing up you Animate Guarding with appropriate chest - Nearby enemies are blinded and 10% of maximum life is added as energy shield (plus, other end-game set up of course). Together with Meat Shield (so it stays close to you) should do the trick. On Sirus you can swap for Minion Life just in case. It is not just a quality of life upgrade. This is a must-have if you're planning to farm delirious high-tier maps.
Okay. I'll address your post.
First. I have never stated my build was cheap. In fact, I go out of my way to warn people away from it who are not an appropriate level and who don't have good financial means. My build is posted in alternative set ups and I go to great lengths when people ask me questions to ensure that they don't pursue my build unless they have the means.
When I post videos, it is for other people's entertainment and to prove that MY build, which is NOT a beginner build, is functioning well. Many people with the means have adopted my build with great success as a result. If you don't like my content, simply don't watch. The content isn't to advocate for anything other than my own build.
You seem to be addressing points that I never made. I DO NOT believe that zombie Necromancer is viable as a budget build any longer. It WAS nerfed too hard. I am trying to make a viable build using clusters for those with the means. Play a more affordable build and then switch if you like, or don't. Doesn't matter to me.
Your post comes off as bitter, jealous and addresses things that I've never once said.
In case all of the above isn't clear:
Zombie necromancer is no longer a cheap, beginner set up. In the current league, you have to invest significant currency to get the build up and running. Clusters have added complexity, diversity, and power to all builds but the rarest of combos cost a great deal of currency.
Hi,
cant find this mod on poeaffix.c om
Socketed Gems are supported by level 1 fortify
Can someone tell me pls, wether this is a suffix or a prefix. Thank you
Gonna blow your guys minds if you try this but I found what I believe to be the BEST combo for specters.. in fact I am confident, you heard it here 1st, that this combo will be as essential as the 2 apes in EVERYONE'S setup. You can either do my preferred 1x frenzy ape, 1x power charge ape, and 2x arena masters OR 2 frenzy 1 power 1 arena master.. 2 masters is AMAZING. they give a buff in a HUGE aoe that gives you mob literally the attack and cast speed AND MOVE SPEED equal or greater than a flesh offering.. with 2 you will get 100% up-time.. This is INSANELY good for our dps and stacks amazing with our own flesh offering OR allows guilt free use of the powerful bone offering defense option.. like I said its AMAZING and WILL be the defacto specter combo for this build. I PROMISE YOU.
Ive tried all other support specters and Arena masters blows them all out of the water BY FAR. MSG me anytime if you have questions.
Baranite cleric give you phys as extra lightining damage, so I would say its better 1x frenzy ape, 1x power ape, 1x master of arena and 1x baranite cleric. Also its been weeks some streamers talked about arena masters being good to buff your other minions
Thanks alot for the info guys , youre doin great . I ve just tried the arena masters (on std ) and their buff is great .
Right now im with 1 x retainer 1 x carnage 1 x host + 2 arena masters ( queens escape setup 5 spectres with 21lvl gem on barons.. ) but im gona sacrifice the one master for 1 Baranite cleric .
Gonna blow your guys minds if you try this but I found what I believe to be the BEST combo for specters.. in fact I am confident, you heard it here 1st, that this combo will be as essential as the 2 apes in EVERYONE'S setup. You can either do my preferred 1x frenzy ape, 1x power charge ape, and 2x arena masters OR 2 frenzy 1 power 1 arena master.. 2 masters is AMAZING. they give a buff in a HUGE aoe that gives you mob literally the attack and cast speed AND MOVE SPEED equal or greater than a flesh offering.. with 2 you will get 100% up-time.. This is INSANELY good for our dps and stacks amazing with our own flesh offering OR allows guilt free use of the powerful bone offering defense option.. like I said its AMAZING and WILL be the defacto specter combo for this build. I PROMISE YOU.
Ive tried all other support specters and Arena masters blows them all out of the water BY FAR. MSG me anytime if you have questions.
Baranite cleric give you phys as extra lightining damage, so I would say its better 1x frenzy ape, 1x power ape, 1x master of arena and 1x baranite cleric. Also its been weeks some streamers talked about arena masters being good to buff your other minions
Thanks alot for the info guys , youre doin great . I ve just tried the arena masters (on std ) and their buff is great .
Right now im with 1 x retainer 1 x carnage 1 x host + 2 arena masters ( queens escape setup 5 spectres with 21lvl gem on barons.. ) but im gona sacrifice the one master for 1 Baranite cleric .
Gear setuped atm
does the buff have 100% up time? or do they buff the same time as each other?
Last edited by adriano447#2784 on Apr 4, 2020, 2:25:37 PM
Addressing Brunova, Elorathiel, struggling necromancer and this build in general
1) to Brunova
You've done an amazing job, spent a lot of time not only playing and testing this build, but also editing, writing about it, really. However, you havent played it this league, you dont know how difficult (or not) Delirium is, even when you try to decrease the quality of your gear and show how awesome this build still is, the rest of your gear is still almost God-tier.
I'm sorry, but as someone said before, it seems like a cheap scam. Because it is. You either state in the description that it is standard build or that you need to HEAVILY invest in it to farm red maps with no problems. It's not for newbies and new players.
It is NOT the most powerful build anymore, you CANT (anymore) put your Raised Zombies in the Tabula and go kick some ass.
Sorry, but that't the truth. I'm kind of sad seeing inexperienced PoE players getting influenced by your posts how crazy this build is and then getting destroyed in yellow maps and not understand why.
Who needs guides? Who asks questions? Who struggles? New or inexperienced players. This build is not for them. And you should state that.
2) to Elorathiel
Man, stop flexing. Seriously. A struggling necromancer appears, says he cant do Simulacrum and then out of nowhere you show up and demonstrate that this build is great, you've done 20th wave with no problem, here is proof, bla-bla-bla...
How many exalts you invested? 70? 80? 100? Your wands are at least 10ex each. Your chest is how much? 15-20? Two jewels 7-8ex each? Enlighten/Empower lvl4, Zombies/Spectres/AG lvl21, awakened melee physical 8ex, ect, ect, ect. Of course you can do t16 100% delirious!
ANY BUILD IN POE can do ANY CONTENT if you invest a lot of currency. In case somebody didnt know.
And dont you say to me, you dont need that kind of gear to do all the content...YES YOU DO. May be not to that extend, but you MUST invest heavily in the build to work as it supposed to. 5% dps here, 4% there, another 3% there and it all adds up to 100% more dps, 100% more zombie HP. Yes, it actually does.
I played this build from the start, invested at least 40ex for it to play more or less comfortably, so I know what I'm talking about.
3) to struggling and new necromancers
This build is not cheap at all. I would even say it is very expensive. Not mirror-tier, but still. If you think you can pick up a 5link or a Tabula, invest 1-2-3 ex (or even 5) and go farm red maps, sorry, I have bad news for you. Budget setup doesnt work anymore. Dont start with it if dont have AT LEAST 20ex.
If you're patient, ready to farm white/yellow maps to build up tens of exalts and progress it further and further after tens of hours of playing, yes, of course you can do it. But that's the only way.
Most important points about getting this build where is HAS to be:
1) Many people said it and I repeat - 1000 strength. Dont bother even mapping without them. It is very easily achieved with Efficient training jewel and gear with "to strength"
2) 22 lvl zombies (20 from gem, 2 from ascendancy) are SHITE. You need to have at least 27-28. 30 is optimal. Either through +1/+1 wands or crafted two-handed. This is when you'll feel a HUGE difference in both - suitability of your zombies and dps. Yes, I've done t16 map with lvl 25 Zombies, but I cant say I was comfortable playing like this.
3) Forget about Tabula or a 5link if you're progressing to high tier yellow or even red maps. You need something better.
4) Dressing up you Animate Guarding with appropriate chest - Nearby enemies are blinded and 10% of maximum life is added as energy shield (plus, other end-game set up of course). Together with Meat Shield (so it stays close to you) should do the trick. On Sirus you can swap for Minion Life just in case. It is not just a quality of life upgrade. This is a must-have if you're planning to farm delirious high-tier maps.
all of this , and u missed the essential EVERY BUILD is sttrugling with delirium, its not just bruno's build ... everyone had to try and find a way to make it work.. I CAN do t16s with 5-10 ex budget with bruno's gear and it'll work perfectly, I CANT if i decide to use the freaking delirium mirror.
which is why me and elorathiel came up with the idea to buff our minions with clusters, and increase our dps AND YES that is expensive because almost nobody knows how to do clusters or craft them,
check other builds theres clusters going for 40ex+ cuz noone is crafting them...
so maybe the problem isnt the cost but the lack of people trying to learn how to build their gears instead of just throwing rmt'ed exs at someone's face.
anyhow sirius was buffed to the point almost every build haves a tough time.
same thing applies to delirium content.
wanna play bruno's build with few exs and dont have to worry? dont use delirium content.
thats it.
Last edited by adriano447#2784 on Apr 4, 2020, 2:23:38 PM
