[3.11]QUEEN OF NECROMANCY - STRONGEST ZOMBIES EVER? 55M+ DPS 7K+ LIFE MAX BLOCK 90% CHAOS RES

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ejay3000 wrote:

Are we screwed by the patch?

It does hit us hard for sure, however i feel like most of the nerfs are in place. maybe the amount of lost zombies is abit high if you ask me.

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bliss1234 wrote:

Switching from bone barrier to commander of darkness seems like a good idea. Just use steelskin instead of bone armor. Geofri chest seems completely dead, saqawal variant should be fine. Thoughts?

Edit: spirit offering still gives more dps than flesh offering to zombies by quite a bit. we just might have to press a life flask now.

I don't think steelskin is the way to go tbh. I still prefer molten shell over it. I was even thinking of dropping mistress of sacrifice now, as we only really picked it up due to SO.

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Aldonés wrote:

There’s no denying zombiemancers were hit hard (2-4 fewer overall zombies). I thought they would change the ES of SO to recover over a duration rather than instantly (thought that would happen in 3.9)...they completely gutted it. FO will be by far the better option in my opinion paired with Brutality in the zombie links. Rember we want speed clears and FO comes with a lot of movement speed. Brutality means better synergy with Pride and Impale.

Commander of Darkness is looking like a viable option to replace Bone Barrier, but I also might go back to Plaguebringer: 10% more damage dealt and 10% less damage received.

It’s also possible we should consider Triad Grip alternatives. ST will still be viable with the correct investment, but with the SO nerf we really have no reason to take it. Alternatively crafted rares can be viable as well.

I’m not sure why we would want to use Steelskin, VMS is still better with enough armour.

Zombie numbers were indeed hit quite hard, however i feel like its fine that it was. Our zombies started stacking on top of eachother in endgame bossfight cases, so less zombies with higher dps seems to be the way things will be going.

As for survivability my initial thoughts are: Drop SO for FO, drop mistress for commander of darkness, drop desecrate for Life gained on hit. Swapping awakened minion damage / Feeding frenzy for awakened brutality. I also most likely will drop Shapers touch for a pair of rare gloves, or triad grip with cold convertion, however i still think that impale is the way to go here.

These changes should 100% negate the loss of zombies dpswise it should actually give us more dps, however we do face a small challenge regarding our life pool. From ~7k life & 4,4k ES to ~7k life and ~700 ES. Hopefully adding more armour and life gain on hit aswell as the zombieleech that we always used will do the trick.

Life on hit is not bad but how often is proccing? And whitout proper investment in attack speed and some accuracy idk how viable will be.

If someone can test it in standard will be great otherwise we need to learn how to dodge attacks, not AFK or watching movies gameplay:)).

I dont think that dmg nerf is soo big even with less zombies (dmg was more then enough anyway), most players will hit 1500 strenght and stop there.

With new delirium mobs and affixes we have enough to keep zombies alive and not die?

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nazgul29 wrote:

Life on hit is not bad but how often is proccing? And whitout proper investment in attack speed and some accuracy idk how viable will be.

If someone can test it in standard will be great otherwise we need to learn how to dodge attacks, not AFK or watching movies gameplay:)).

I dont think that dmg nerf is soo big even with less zombies (dmg was more then enough anyway), most players will hit 1500 strenght and stop there.

With new delirium mobs and affixes we have enough to keep zombies alive and not die?

We'll just pick up resolute technique so we'll procc it 8,8 times a second which will grant ~500 life a second. its no 2,7k ES per second thats for sure, however i feel like it could be good. Remember that the 500 life is per enemy in the cyclone AoE.

As for minions dying i don't think it'll be a big problem, maybe early on when we don't have a lot of life on the minions, however if it becomes a problem later on we have so many tools to make them survive.

Added 3.10 changelog

changes CWC setup to a more lifebases life gained on hit setup

Changed awakened minion damage for awakened brutality due to dropping spirit offering.

Dropped spirit offering for flesh offering.

Dropped mistress of sacrifice for Commander of darkness.

Changed a few nodes on the skill tree!

All in all, without cluster jewels we GAINED dps, however we need to figure out abit of survivability.

Cyclone should hit ~6-10x per second per enemy depending on gear. You won’t get as much on bosses, but 10 LoH running into a pack of 10 mobs will net 600-1000 lps. We do get minion attack speed after all, and Cyclone has a 300% more attack speed modifier.

Dropping MoS is definitely a possibility. I like that extra 40% increased skill effect duration though (will be very noticeable if aiming for 100% uptime on VMS). :( Whining aside it will boil down to what is most effective. I’m not as concerned with losing my share of FO, so it probably would be better to drop it. An Ascendency is worth way more than 40% SED.

If we go all the way to Corpse Pact, we can really buff up LoH. 2% attack/cast speed per Corpse consumed recently. If we use FO every .7 seconds that’s 45 corpses per “recently” in a continuous usage of Cyclone (using L10+ CWC). A L2+ ACWC would bring this up to 54. Plus you essentially get a free Skitterbots, and I’ve always liked Plaguebringer.

Keep in mind that attack speed would only be good for us, not minions, and it ramps up/fades over a 4s duration while channeling.

Spirit offering still offers 30% chao res if spec Mistress of Sacrifice
SO also has minion gain 29% of phys to chaos dmg which would result in higher dps than brutality

In fact, we can drop bone barrier for commander of darkness and replace those stats on tree and guard skill with VMS and staunching flask.
Just my opinion.

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wmin wrote:

Spirit offering still offers 30% chao res if spec Mistress of Sacrifice
SO also has minion gain 29% of phys to chaos dmg which would result in higher dps than brutality

In fact, we can drop bone barrier for commander of darkness and replace those stats on tree and guard skill with VMS and staunching flask.
Just my opinion.

Hmm.. I just don't see the chaos resist being worth the two ascendency points. Do you use fork PoB? Cause when i swap brutality for awakened minion damage and flesh offering for spirit offering i lose about 10% dps.

I know this build had skeleton and no skeleton variants. Are skeles basically dead now?