PS4 trade prices are an UTTER joke

People need to learn how to use the highlight filter, gear is not hard to find..

Yes, key uniques for meta builds with low supply are way over-priced compared to PC, but they have way larger supply that have to compete plus way easier for you to see all of that item available to ensure your getting the best deal.

league starters are a very important thing; playing a build not dependent on 1 key unique to work, or builds that function without the key unique till you get them are what people should be using till they have the currency to get the key item.

Yes over-priced uniques suck, but at the same point many uniques are over priced and you can most often flip one you get for another build for the currency to get the one for your desired build. i'm not sure of any builds with must have uniques that are more than an exalt to get moving into maps, sure some have min/maxed stuff for pushing uber content that are crazy, but not that are needed to get to red maps.

PoE does not hold your hand, and a new player is going to make a lot of mistakes in investments and focus and so on. Find a good build guide, one that is actually a possible league starter that can grow to an all content build (with investment) and the crazy prices wont hurt so bad. One of my clan did a build will not function without a unique that is very rare on PS4 synthesys and didnt show up for a few days and he couldn't do white maps on magic and almost quit the flashback due to it, but the rest of us all had proper league starters and had no issues, got out infront of the supply, made currency, (overpaid) for uniques to push forward and now have well rounded characters pushing into 90's and red maps.

I get things might be cheaper on PC because of supply but that's not the case here. This is more extreme things being more expensive due to low supply doesn't justify 80X the price and people who say "Oh just sell your stuff at high price too" fail to understand there's not enough exalts in existence to meet those numbers. If this were supply and demand the exalts would have far more value because they are more rare than the items the people are wanting 40+ of them for. Literally just go farm it yourself is faster than farming the exalts that's a broken market

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greatfulcook wrote:

I get things might be cheaper on PC because of supply but that's not the case here. This is more extreme things being more expensive due to low supply doesn't justify 80X the price and people who say "Oh just sell your stuff at high price too" fail to understand there's not enough exalts in existence to meet those numbers. If this were supply and demand the exalts would have far more value because they are more rare than the items the people are wanting 40+ of them for. Literally just go farm it yourself is faster than farming the exalts that's a broken market

For the absurd ones I just ignore them plain and simple. As for the ones with more reasonable prices I just went ahead and offered what I had. While you should expect a lot of rejection down the line you'll succeed in getting your offer through. That is how I ended up building my character and my friend's character through the season before the halfway mark. Trust me there are people who will eventually accept your offers you just need to be active in doing so. Some notable pieces I snagged were:

Eber's Unification
6 link Beast Fur Vaal Regalia
3 mod watcher's eye -- for bleed immunity and ES regen
2 mod watcher's eye -- bleed immunity and ES regen again but gave this to my friend
300 ES Fossil Spirit shield
Devouring Diadem -- for my friend's Trickster build
Kaom's Heart -- for my friend's build that I have no idea what it is
6 link Atziri's Splendor -- for my friend's Trickster Build

I bought these either with chaos orbs, an exalt or two, or just a mix of chaos and other materials (e.g. sextants, annulment, etc).

As for the rest we just sold our uniques cheap, outside of a few notable pieces, and from there amassed the currency we needed. Although as noted above you should bear in mind whether or not your build is actually budget friendly. Some red flags to me are requiring 6 link sockets to fully work (two in fact), elder / shaper influenced pieces, crafting (because these will cost you 2-5 exalts at minimum for the quality crafts and I am not even adding the cost of acquiring the recipes or the other materials needed e.g. Fossils, Scouring, Alteration, Annulment, etc).

Another tip for you if you want to build up currency is buy divination cards up, especially Saint's Treasure and Wrath. Most people will part with their 1-2 cards.

I'm not worried about currency I literally stopped using trade completely. The system is broken and it's due to player greed and lack of quality trade tools. I Need exalts for nothing and craft my own gear why on earth would you spend 4-5 ex on an elder or shaper item you can roll yourself? lol I don't know why you even reply to my comment like you obs don't understand it

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greatfulcook wrote:

I'm not worried about currency I literally stopped using trade completely. The system is broken and it's due to player greed and lack of quality trade tools. I Need exalts for nothing and craft my own gear why on earth would you spend 4-5 ex on an elder or shaper item you can roll yourself? lol I don't know why you even reply to my comment like you obs don't understand it

No my point is you can trade. You're only looking at the obvious bogus sellers. There are legit sellers or you can take the time to be persistent with your offers, but do expect rejection. Saying it doesn't work is entirely false when clearly there are others like myself who have succeeded in making it work. And are clearing high end content by the halfway mark because of it.

And as for elder or shaper items, like I said those are the red flag items I avoid -- because even minimum investment to craft them is going cost 2-5 exalts (meaning whoever is selling em is going to put margin ontop of that). Same reason I avoid any crafted items really, because the minimum investment is already costly as is. These are things that don't work in trade for me since its costly to make and even costlier to sell (great if you can make it work but as you already note the likelihood of having a buyer with the amount of exalts is highly unlikely -- so you've just made a bad choice if profit was your goal).

You're getting reasonable offers because people like me took the time to accept them. The ones saying the system is broken are the ones willing to give you the right deal. Price fixing is absurd which is the "bogus" offers you're talking about and the SYSTEM is the problem. If you list an item for a price and i send that amount it should be auto accepted. There's literally no reason it shouldn't except for price fixing. But the devs ignore that and blame other things yet price fixing is the issue that's why it's illegal in every market in the world. But sure let's pretend that it's not an issue and toss around hypothetical all over and ignore market standards.

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greatfulcook wrote:

You're getting reasonable offers because people like me took the time to accept them. The ones saying the system is broken are the ones willing to give you the right deal. Price fixing is absurd which is the "bogus" offers you're talking about and the SYSTEM is the problem. If you list an item for a price and i send that amount it should be auto accepted. There's literally no reason it shouldn't except for price fixing. But the devs ignore that and blame other things yet price fixing is the issue that's why it's illegal in every market in the world. But sure let's pretend that it's not an issue and toss around hypothetical all over and ignore market standards.

They already made it clear with their manifesto that they want to avoid convenience of trading and have set prices because they feel that is an auction-house feature, one that they want to avoid. Although that said price fixing would still happen regardless, as we already know how that works with WoW auction house (which is still a mess even now). Messing with fixed prices is very doable, putting numerous bogus listings to undercut opponents and affect trade prices to snatch up offers and create a monopoly.

And as for you saying you give reasonable offers that is the point... Ignore the absurd ones and go for the good ones -- you're bound to hit the jackpot and before the halfway mark chances are you'll be fully geared. Whereas this thread focuses on the extremes with the 80 exalts for an item etc. Ignore them they are simply noise. There are still enough players to trade for a functioning market. Not perfect but it works enough, just know what to avoid which comes with experience.

Lol Unwavering stances and a dying plaerbase with a brand new launch on a new system. Sounds familiar hope it works out. GGG Should know better since this is the stance that gave them a chance in the market if blizzard hadn't has their heads in the sand POE would have been straight out ignored. But sure ignore the past and the future will leave you the next blizzard. I heard activision is looking to partner

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greatfulcook wrote:

Lol Unwavering stances and a dying plaerbase with a brand new launch on a new system. Sounds familiar hope it works out. GGG Should know better since this is the stance that gave them a chance in the market if blizzard hadn't has their heads in the sand POE would have been straight out ignored. But sure ignore the past and the future will leave you the next blizzard. I heard activision is looking to partner

diablo immortal is waiting for u :)

p.s keep selling for "reasonable" price keep feeding those flipers :)

Flipper was awesome. Too bad he got caught in a tuna net