ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

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The_Impeacher wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Read the whole thing twice.

I wasn't kidding about that former White House counsel Don McGahn thing. Especially now that Trump is signalling intent to block a House subpoena on him. That might go from one to two legitimate counts of obstruction of justice. I think you're barking up the wrong trees with all your other pathetic attempts.

So you admit Trump is a criminal. Good, then.

When I see someone baiting a fight just to report and get other banned x.x this is shameful.

Raptor Jesus is crying.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Read the whole thing twice.

I wasn't kidding about that former White House counsel Don McGahn thing. Especially now that Trump is signalling intent to block a House subpoena on him. That might go from one to two legitimate counts of obstruction of justice. I think you're barking up the wrong trees with all your other pathetic attempts.

So you admit Trump is a criminal. Good, then.

I believe in innocence until proven guilty, but I'm confident he could be shown to be a criminal in regards to his behaviors with McGahn. There's an important distinction in present tense versus future tense there.

I personally wouldn't consider such a thing to be a high crime, by which I mean an impeachable offense. I'd be down for a resolution of censure, though, and for indictment after his term — or terms — expire. I think Trump should be fined for that shit, certainly not removed, possibly not even jailed.

None of this changes my disgust at a years-long targeted prosecution. Trump didn't criminally conspire with Russians, as you have long falsely claimed and continue to falsely claim despite the Mueller report's clear conclusion on that point, and it's despicable how you're trying to nail him for obstruction of justice on nearly a dozen dubious claims. Particularly the Comey firing and the public criticism of Cohen — both of those are particularly egregious in their blindly partisan hatred and lack of foresight regarding the precedent that would be set.

Sad thing that the FBI stopped the investigation on Hillary and her mails... that one looked very interesting.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

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diablofdb wrote:

Sad thing that the FBI stopped the investigation on Hillary and her mails... that one looked very interesting.

The investigations into Clinton were exhaustive.

they were blocked.

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diablofdb wrote:

they were blocked.

Not blocked, but more dropped like a lead balloon because it was #HerTime.

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DalaiLama wrote:

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rojimboo wrote:

Historically US is by far the biggest polluter, still. China is catching up, but the US is far away and ahead.

Really? The name of the country with the most total emissions seems to be China:

I couldn't see your graph, but this is what you want, cumulative CO2 emissions by country, nifty little video here

https://twitter.com/CarbonBrief/status/1120715988532629506/video/1

Looks like Trump is indeed above the law.

I could feign surprise, but I don't think I will.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Are you aware that the 'grey man' meme thing was created in a Kremlin operated disinformation outfit? By repeating their propaganda, you're helping Putin in his attack against the US.

When your paranoia.exe goes out of control and you actually believe such nonsense lmao.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Mueller wasn't mandated to explore Aiding and Abetting or Bribery

When you have to literally make up nonsense to keep your worldview.exe intact.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Remember: Trump will always do what Putin instructs him to do.

When your programming is so one sided that you simply can't know about things like Trump arming the Ukraine with lethal weapons, Trump literally killing Russians in Syria, Trump dethroning Putin allies like Maduro etc.

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Xavderion wrote:

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Are you aware that the 'grey man' meme thing was created in a Kremlin operated disinformation outfit? By repeating their propaganda, you're helping Putin in his attack against the US.

When your paranoia.exe goes out of control and you actually believe such nonsense lmao.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Mueller wasn't mandated to explore Aiding and Abetting or Bribery

When you have to literally make up nonsense to keep your worldview.exe intact.

What? That is exactly the way that it works. It is why there are a dozen spin off investigations listed (but redacted) in the report.

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Xavderion wrote:

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Remember: Trump will always do what Putin instructs him to do.

When your programming is so one sided that you simply can't know about things like Trump arming the Ukraine with lethal weapons, Trump literally killing Russians in Syria, Trump dethroning Putin allies like Maduro etc.

Arming Ukraine with the weapons is a good point but the other two are nonsense. In Syria the Russians attacked and the soldiers were just defending themselves. For Maduro, I guess you missed the part where Trump said Putin told him that Russians weren't helping Maduro. The bottom line is that your programming is so one sided that you simply can't know things like Helsinki, Trump continuing his lies about Russia not attacking our electoral process, Trump bad mouthing NATO, etc.

STATEMENT BY FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTORS

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We are former federal prosecutors. We served under both Republican and Democratic administrations at different levels of the federal system: as line attorneys, supervisors, special prosecutors, United States Attorneys, and senior officials at the Department of Justice. The offices in which we served were small, medium, and large; urban, suburban, and rural; and located in all parts of our country.

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Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice.

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We emphasize that these are not matters of close professional judgment. Of course, there are potential defenses or arguments that could be raised in response to an indictment of the nature we describe here. In our system, every accused person is presumed innocent and it is always the government’s burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice — the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution — runs counter to logic and our experience.

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