ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

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Raycheetah wrote:

Special Impeachment Watch Update!

From that cess-pit of Right-Wing fake news, the Washinton Post:

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Nancy Pelosi on Impeaching Trump: ‘He’s Just Not Worth It’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/03/11/feature/nancy-pelosi-on-impeaching-president-trump-hes-just-not-worth-it/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c3ae3adb582a

So, essentially, there's nothing to be gained from the attempt to impeach worth the potential collateral damage to those pursuing it.

"He's just not worth it" is just the sort of thing you hear when there's no "there" there. I guess President Trump's ostensible offenses weren't all that serious after all, right? Otherwise, Nancy and her pitchfork-bearing mob wouldn't stop until they had his orange head on a pike. And since when have Nancy and the Dems given two hoots in hard vacuum about being "divisive?" I ask that as a member of the basket of Deplorables. At any rate, I'm sure there will be some other thing the Dems can do to punish President Trump for having had the temerity to "steal" the White House out from under perfect candidate Hillary's nose when it was her turn. =^[.]^=

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Turtledove wrote:

Ravings with zero references, no doubt about it. You suffer from TDS. (Trump Delusional Syndrome is a mental state when someone has an overwhelming desire to believe what a known pathological liar says.)

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Britney_Spears wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

Ravings with zero references, no doubt about it. You suffer from TDS. (Trump Delusional Syndrome is a mental state when someone has an overwhelming desire to believe what a known pathological liar says.)

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RPGlitch wrote:

I think everyone in the thread gets you're a lunatic turtledove, you don't need to repeat it.

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Turtledove wrote:

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RPGlitch wrote:

I think everyone in the thread gets you're a lunatic turtledove, you don't need to repeat it.

So what percent of your posts in this thread would you guess that mention Hillary Clinton?

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I would guess that Raycheetah probably mentions her more often but I'll believe you if you think you mention her more?

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Do you have an overwhelming desire to believe the lies of the pathological liar Trump?

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

And then the Charlottesville hoax all over again.

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Turtledove wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

And then the Charlottesville hoax all over again.

I assume this means your argument that all those people in Charlottesville marching at night with torches and yelling racist chants were just protesting the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue and weren't really racists?

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Osama bin Laden is long dead, but his plans live on through American foreign policy.
In 2001, al Qaeda consisted of only 400 ideologues in the far corners of the world. After the recent regime change wars in Iraq, Yemen, Libya and Syria, typical estimates place their membership at around 20,000. To top it all off, the American economy is out $5.6 trillion dollars for the whole failed project. This is not the legacy of a war to spread, or even protect, liberty and prosperity. Instead it is the legacy of an evil but gifted tactician, al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Contrary to the popular misunderstanding of al Qaeda’s motives and strategy, bin Laden and his partner Ayman al Zawahiri were not trying to scare America away with the September 11th attacks. They were trying to provoke an overreaction. Al Qaeda’s leaders wanted the U.S. to invade Afghanistan in order to bog our military down, “bleed us to bankruptcy,” and force a worn-out, broken empire to leave the region the hard way, and permanently, just as they had done to the Soviet Union in the 1980s with American support. Only then could they hope to launch the revolutions they sought in their home countries without interference from the American superpower.

Osama bin Laden’s mentor Abdullah Azzam warned in 1986 that the U.S. was on deck for expulsion from the region after the USSR. After observing the effectiveness of asymmetric war against a superior adversary, bin Laden, galvanized by the sanctions against Iraq and the U.S. occupation of the Arabian Peninsula, took up Azzam’s mission. In an early declaration aimed at the U.S., bin Laden noted that the mountainous terrain of Afghanistan helped the mujahideen defeat one of the most powerful militaries in history, and declared that he would seek to lure America to its same fate.

After decimating al Qaeda’s old guard at Tora Bora in 2001, the U.S. military could have returned home victorious. Instead, our leaders chose to follow bin Laden’s wishes by committing to an extended occupation and impossible nation-building mission – one which has lasted for more than 17 years.

The 2003 invasion of Iraq to overthrow the man bin Laden called a “socialist infidel,” Saddam Hussein, was a massive boon to the terror organization, decimating a secular government, paving the way for the creation of the first al Qaeda franchise there in 2004, radicalizing of a generation of new fighters, and proving the limits of U.S. influence in the Middle East.

America’s further regime change wars in Yemen, Libya, and Syria have been strategic victories for the U.S.’s terrorist enemies beyond the former terrorist leader’s wildest dreams.

In his journals, bin Laden was optimistic about the 2011 Arab Spring, writing that it had “opened a door for jihadists.” He wouldn’t live to see the aftermath of the U.S. and NATO-backed regime change operation in Libya, but the country remains awash in members of Ansar Al-Sharia and the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) that the U.S. and NATO supported in the war. Both groups are led by veterans of al Qaeda in Iraq from Iraq War II.

The jihadists empowered by the regime change in Libya quickly spread to Mali, Chad, and Niger. A new generation of Sunnis with rifles and SOCOM operators are fighting now throughout the Maghreb, Sahel, and sub-Saharan Africa.

Saudi Arabia became bin Laden’s primary target for revolution when the king allowed the American military buildup there in preparation for the first Iraq war in 1990. As a key ally and major purchaser of American weapons, the kingdom has long appeared immune from the fate of Iraq or Libya. Now that the current regime has been racked by political purges and the financial burden of a war in Yemen, it’s not difficult to see how the legions of jihadists cultivated directly and indirectly by the U.S. and Saudi Arabia itself in the recent regional wars might return and wreak havoc there.

U.S. and regional allies’ covert intervention on behalf of the insurgency in Syria backfired horribly by helping to bring al Qaeda in Iraq back to life from its previous near-total destruction by Iraqi tribal leaders during the 2007 “Awakening” in Iraq. In 2011, al Qaeda in Iraq, or the “Islamic State of Iraq,” crossed into Syria to take part in the uprising against the Ba’athist dictatorship there. In Syria, AQI/ISI began calling itself Jabhat al Nusra, then Hayat Tahrir al Sham. It remains loyal to al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri. Their group now again numbers in the tens of thousands and for the time being remains ensconced in Syria’s northwestern Idlib province.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

And then the Charlottesville hoax all over again.

I assume this means your argument that all those people in Charlottesville marching at night with torches and yelling racist chants were just protesting the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue and weren't really racists?

No, those were racists and that was NEVER my argument, strawmanner. My argument is: the majority of those protesting the statue were not openly racist, and it's disingenuous to show only the radical minority of the statue protestors and act as if Trump was only talking about that minority.

At least BlacKkKlansman did touch on the idea that white nationalists and racists tend to be infiltrators — the two army Klansmen, bad cop Landers, "the Organization," "the Invisible Empire." And then the one or two bad cops have people like Kwame Ture thinking all cops are bigots, when most of the CSPD weren't. The thing you need to understand is that white nationalists know that's how the Kwames of the world will think, and they want that. They hope to intimidate by tricking you into thinking they are bigger and more powerful than they are, because they don't have the numbers to intimidate non-whites otherwise. They'll boast as if they've got the support of other whites and their institutions, just like that Landers, but if those same "friends" knew who he really was they'd turn on him, just like Landers. It's all a bluff.

The point I'm trying to get at is that the white nationalists themselves love the Charlottesville hoax. They love that you think they had five times the numbers they actually did. They love that so many of you think that Trump said some of them are fine people, when in fact he condemned white nationalists totally. They are perfectly content to be the media's Boogeyman. If you're waiting on David Duke to come out and say "hey, you've got this wrong, most of those guys weren't us, and Trump said we were bad people," you will wait forever because it will never happen.

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The Unite the Right rally, also known as the Charlottesville rally or Charlottesville riots,[4] was a white supremacist[5][6][7][8] rally that occurred in Charlottesville, Virginia, from August 11 to 12, 2017.[9][10] Protesters were members of the far-right and included self-identified members of the alt-right,[11] neo-Confederates,[12] neo-fascists,[13] white nationalists,[14] neo-Nazis,[15] Klansmen,[16] and various militias.[17] The marchers chanted racist and antisemitic slogans, carried semi-automatic rifles, Nazi and neo-Nazi symbols (such as the swastika, Odal rune, Black Sun, and Iron Cross), the Valknut, Confederate battle flags, Deus Vult crosses, flags and other symbols of various past and present anti-Muslim and antisemitic groups.[18][8][9][19][20][21][22] Within the Charlottesville area, the rally is often known as A12[23] or 8/12.[24] The organizers' stated goals included unifying the American white nationalist movement[11] and to oppose removing a statue of Robert E. Lee from Charlottesville's Emancipation Park.[21][25]

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Among the far-right groups engaged in organizing the march were the Stormer Book Clubs (SBCs) of the neo-Nazi news website The Daily Stormer,[50] The Right Stuff,[51] the National Policy Institute,[52] and four groups that form the Nationalist Front:[49] the neo-Confederate League of the South,[49] the neo-Nazi groups Traditionalist Worker Party,[53] Vanguard America,[53] and the National Socialist Movement.[49] Other groups involved in the rally were the Ku Klux Klan (specifically the Loyal White Knights and the Confederate White Knights branches)[54] ,[21] the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights,[53] the American Identitarian group Identity Evropa,[55] the Southern California-based fight club Rise Above Movement,[56][57] the American Guard,[19] the Detroit Right Wings – misappropriating the name of the Detroit Red Wings NHL team, which usage was condemned by the team,[58][59] True Cascadia,[60] the Canadian-based ARM (Alt-Right Montreal) and Hammer Brothers,[61] and Anti-Communist Action.[19]