[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

Bought this but apparently the enchant only gives attack block, and not both like Bone Offering normally does. Pretty weird. Also the overcapped block you have doesn't seem to get added as spell block if you have "X% of block chance applied to spells" mods.

Do you guys think this can balance between clear and bossing ?
I have other gears that can max out res, block, 3 golems.
The helm is used for 2 TV while body is used for 2SG.
The animated guardian has melee splash, multistrike, minion life for maximum dyadus.
Running with 2 fire and 1 stone golems

After clearing my atlas, tbh solar guards will clear everything super quickly up to and including T15. I've filled in my atlas with only SGs. I've done red elder guardians with SGs without any issue (can't get elder to spawn in red). That leaves T16+ for TV's. I'm ok with recoloring my chest (5BG -> 4BGR and back) when I want to do shaper and guardians. Just keep a set of TV gems leveled otherwise don't worry about it.

I rarely swap to Slower Proj but that's an option for a bit more single target DPS for the SGs. I find it not necessary as they already melt everything and GMP means they are less prone to missing bosses that move a lot (like constrictor elder guardian).

I tried flame golems + tv's and honestly it felt lackluster. Flame golems are just not as good as SGs for clearing trash as their AOE skills have pretty long cooldowns even with the primordial jewels.

Can check out my char MACB_SIX in HC abyss if you're curious. My gear is not crazy good but it's been a cake walk up to this point.

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seanbr wrote:

After clearing my atlas, tbh solar guards will clear everything super quickly up to and including T15. I've filled in my atlas with only SGs. I've done red elder guardians with SGs without any issue (can't get elder to spawn in red). That leaves T16+ for TV's. I'm ok with recoloring my chest (5BG -> 4BGR and back) when I want to do shaper and guardians. Just keep a set of TV gems leveled otherwise don't worry about it.

I rarely swap to Slower Proj but that's an option for a bit more single target DPS for the SGs. I find it not necessary as they already melt everything and GMP means they are less prone to missing bosses that move a lot (like constrictor elder guardian).

I tried flame golems + tv's and honestly it felt lackluster. Flame golems are just not as good as SGs for clearing trash as their AOE skills have pretty long cooldowns even with the primordial jewels.

Can check out my char MACB_SIX in HC abyss if you're curious. My gear is not crazy good but it's been a cake walk up to this point.

My SG delete even t16 guardians,problems come when i want to do shaper and uber atziri,they simply get instant killed and it is no fun running around boss that can 1-2hit you desecrating RNG for 10minutes in hopes to resummon.

I tried to put both minion life 20/20 totem resistance 20/20 at once on them t17 summon in shaper realm
and they die just the same.

I can see only option in using elementalist,because that should make them immortal vs atziri and shaper
+ give golem but I do not understand the elementalist tree
will the dmg bonuses there even work for minions? nothing suggests so

Otherwise,only noticable difference would be lack of shield block 67/44 without offering
triple curse

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kissmevn wrote:

Do you guys think this can balance between clear and bossing ?
I have other gears that can max out res, block, 3 golems.
The helm is used for 2 TV while body is used for 2SG.
The animated guardian has melee splash, multistrike, minion life for maximum dyadus.
Running with 2 fire and 1 stone golems

yesterday i was on the minotaur. problems was in my personal survivability and life AG.

so we need to have nice items for self and +++++lvl to AG, or hi will die all the time.

I use Tabula (Spectres-Minion Damage-Burning Damage-Elemental Focus-Elemental Resistance-Swift Affliction).
Which gem should be drop for 5L Vis Mortis?

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kid_a_444 wrote:

I use Tabula (Spectres-Minion Damage-Burning Damage-Elemental Focus-Elemental Resistance-Swift Affliction).
Which gem should be drop for 5L Vis Mortis?

resistance is safe to drop,they have plenty with necromancer anyway

Uber Atziri..

This question comes up from time to time and since most people haven't killed her yet according to their challenge pages, I want to share some insights from my kill:

First, I think she can be relatively easy with TVs because they are immune to reflect. I did it with SGs who died twice during the fight. Those deaths weren't necessarily to reflect though. Despite all their defensive prowess, they can die.

So you're approaching her chamber, haven't lost a portal to the Constructs or the Trio, here's what you do:

1. Drop your TP.
2. Remove Curses that you don't want reflected from your gear(!). You want to use Ball Lightning for EE. If the removed curse(s) free up a green socket, put Culling Strike in it. Switch to your single target support gems (GMP -> Slower Proj. for SGs).
3. Forget your EHP and play Super Mario. Chances are that you die to any hit anyway.
4. Her regular phase and the Zombie phase are trivial. Just move around avoiding the one-shot stuff and even 1 surviving Spectre will transition her into the next split phase.
5.a) When the split phase begins, look for the purple glove (= 1 of the 3 harmless, non-reflect clones) and move there + convocate your minions. That should let them attack the purple glove clone. It may put you in a dangerous position though if this clone didn't spawn at the entrance. so alternatively:
5.b) When the split phase begins, move to the entrance and convocate your minions. This is easier for your personal survival because there's more room to maneuver. However there's a 1/3 (*) chance to hit the mirror clone (irrelevant with TVs).
6. For as long as the split phase lasts, focus on your personal survival. I'm not really experienced with the fight, so I failed that a few times.
7. If you have to re-enter the fight during the split phase: You can die multiple times in a row without accomplishing anything, so this is the most crucial step. Make use of your immunity timer after zoning in. Don't move! There will be a Flameblast on you already and you won't make it out in time. So you let that hit you (you're immune for some time if you don't move) and then continue your headless chicken performance.
8. If (all of) your Spectres die, go to the Templar Laboratory, open a t16 map and get lvl83 replacement Spectres there. Remember to bring at least one living Spectre, so you might need to go to the Coast / Solaris Temple first. I wouldn't go for a lvl84 option. Oba's might take too long so your Atziri portals despawn and Shaper portals are too expensive unless you can finish him afterwards with the remaining portals.
9. When the third split phase is over, you've won. Feel free to socket Culling Strike over your Faster Attacks to finish her.

*) You might say it's a 1/4 chance, however since we can tell the purple glove apart from the rest, it's either that or a 1/3 chance for the mirror.

Hello guys, first i wanna thanks for a great guide and build. im having a blast with mapping.

i just want you guys who are more experienced than me to help me wich items to upgrade and make char even stronger as im getting close to middle in atlas for guardians.

ive noticed with the scourge claw i lack block 58%. we run claw right for mapping?

with my current gear im alrdy resist capped. and minion dmg at 276% and life modifer 82% ( gotta get this up little with skill poinst and on jewel i think )

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Midoriisonehotlittlegirl wrote:

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seanbr wrote:

After clearing my atlas, tbh solar guards will clear everything super quickly up to and including T15. I've filled in my atlas with only SGs. I've done red elder guardians with SGs without any issue (can't get elder to spawn in red). That leaves T16+ for TV's. I'm ok with recoloring my chest (5BG -> 4BGR and back) when I want to do shaper and guardians. Just keep a set of TV gems leveled otherwise don't worry about it.

I rarely swap to Slower Proj but that's an option for a bit more single target DPS for the SGs. I find it not necessary as they already melt everything and GMP means they are less prone to missing bosses that move a lot (like constrictor elder guardian).

I tried flame golems + tv's and honestly it felt lackluster. Flame golems are just not as good as SGs for clearing trash as their AOE skills have pretty long cooldowns even with the primordial jewels.

Can check out my char MACB_SIX in HC abyss if you're curious. My gear is not crazy good but it's been a cake walk up to this point.

My SG delete even t16 guardians,problems come when i want to do shaper and uber atziri,they simply get instant killed and it is no fun running around boss that can 1-2hit you desecrating RNG for 10minutes in hopes to resummon.

I tried to put both minion life 20/20 totem resistance 20/20 at once on them t17 summon in shaper realm
and they die just the same.

I can see only option in using elementalist,because that should make them immortal vs atziri and shaper
+ give golem but I do not understand the elementalist tree
will the dmg bonuses there even work for minions? nothing suggests so

Otherwise,only noticable difference would be lack of shield block 67/44 without offering
triple curse

If you want to do shaper with spectre other than TV, you need to time the convocation when it shoot the beam, even slam wont do too much damage on them, and rarely even hit, but beam delete them. the thing is, when your spectre reach enough dps, other stats dont really matter in the shaper fight, and nothing can save them in the uber atziri fight, you either relocate them just in time, or they die instantly. the last two endboss are just mechanic, practice enough you can do it with a tabula, nothing wrong with your gear at all