[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

want to mention something from OP's suggestion with putting TV in elder helmet, this open the door to make a spellmancer with 3TV as your back up, meanwhile using max block or bloodbond to sustain your ehp, all this without sacrificing a 6l main spell clearing maps. look it up at the spell necromancer thread, there's clearly a slot for TV, so basically you got a single damage free card, gonna enjoy this crazy ass league

Hi there,

read the last 5 pages and it seems like FG are the goto for clear speed.

what links do you all recommend? is the level on the gem that important.

i vaaled theese two boots but iam not sure if i can fit them in

with

i have right now

so i cant get a +3 helmet because my vis is only 5-linked right now. iam using 5link zombies with dmg gems and the 2 jewels to push their dmg but its not that fast.


also i made this one on my last necromancer for testing with skeletons. can i put flame golem in there or do i need +2 or +3 or an empower?


thanks in advance

FGs really aren't the go-to for clearspeed, SGs are. FGs are more of a bandaid.

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Themolchii wrote:

Hi there,
i vaaled theese two boots but iam not sure if i can fit them in

with

Assuming Vorici 8 to fix the sockets and links, either pair of boots provides a slight advantage over regular ones. The Temp Chains one could be used to apply two curses with a GMP Ball Lightning and the other one would be useful to host your AG/Zombie setup.

The amulet is quite useless. There are other ways to sacrifice an entire item just for +1 Curse.

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Glick wrote:

FGs really aren't the go-to for clearspeed, SGs are. FGs are more of a bandaid.

This is a WM/TV build-thread - aren't you guys kinda off topic?

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Ragnwald wrote:

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Glick wrote:

FGs really aren't the go-to for clearspeed, SGs are. FGs are more of a bandaid.

This is a WM/TV build-thread - aren't you guys kinda off topic?

FGs work just fine for me with 1 wickerman and 3 TV. I wish there was some type of measuring test to compare.

Having good time with build , thanks very much for making post .


Clear seems a little slow with 3 TV and 1 WM , what can i do to make a little faster please ?

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ImAncient wrote:

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Ragnwald wrote:

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Glick wrote:

FGs really aren't the go-to for clearspeed, SGs are. FGs are more of a bandaid.

This is a WM/TV build-thread - aren't you guys kinda off topic?

FGs work just fine for me with 1 wickerman and 3 TV. I wish there was some type of measuring test to compare.

This can be measured, but it's a pain in the rump.

- Collect a bunch of straightforward maps - Strand is a great example. 10 of them should do.
- Time 5 runs with TV/FG setup.
- Time 5 runs with SG setup.
- Compare average times.

The thing is, the tester needs to ensure they aren't gimping one setup... so both setups need to be running the same levels of jewels, optimal curse for their spectres, correct animated guardian gearing, etc. Summoners are a lot more flexible than most classes - but most classes couldn't respec their damage for a test without dropping a LOT of currency.

Of course, this means spending a few exalts on extra gear just for the test, if you're not already running primal jewels for your golem.

OTOH, setting up to try SGs is pretty easy and cheap. 5c on different Animated Guardian gear, pick up a different curse for curse on hit, another 5-8c on jewels that buff SGs if your TV setup wasn't running spectre supports, and recolor your chest to 5B 1G should be a couple chromes.

I did just that in 3.0, because I didn't believe that SGs could possibye be as good as the Wikerman / Tukohama's Vanguard setup. I never felt the need to switch back, and that was before WM were nerfed.

Honestly, if you want to be lazy, you don't even need to re-color. Fire Penetration does lose to Controlled Destruction, especially thanks to EE. In the end though, even in T16 maps you won't notice the difference.

Im running 2 TV and 1 WM , how to make clear faster ?

How are people running 3 golems ?

What aura should i run ?