[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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Korrikalari wrote:

So I just took the Solar Guards and will probably use them until I have problems with bosses. Whats the tier where they start suffering more against them?

What 5L or 6L should I use on them? Since the gems are likely different from TV and WM.

Also is there any reason to use flesh offering or is it just another way of boosting speed when you are not fighting? Since when fighting I use the block one.

Also arent the new shields OP? If you get one with 45+% block to spells, and 5-6% recover max life when you block you are practically invincible or am I misunderstanding the new mods?

Last thing, when switching to Spectres completely, do I just keep Zombies+Spectres?

Thanks again and great build.

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SoUDT wrote:

How does animate guardian work? Where do I find the items for the guardian?

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julioricar wrote:

guys.. a question

with 5L wich gem i should drop? elemental minion res or another? ty

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Med1umentor wrote:

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Korrikalari wrote:

So I just took the Solar Guards and will probably use them until I have problems with bosses. Whats the tier where they start suffering more against them?

What 5L or 6L should I use on them? Since the gems are likely different from TV and WM.

Also is there any reason to use flesh offering or is it just another way of boosting speed when you are not fighting? Since when fighting I use the block one.

Also arent the new shields OP? If you get one with 45+% block to spells, and 5-6% recover max life when you block you are practically invincible or am I misunderstanding the new mods?

Last thing, when switching to Spectres completely, do I just keep Zombies+Spectres?

Thanks again and great build.

Problems? Well, solar guards don't have any problems on bosses, so i can't tell when they start to "suffer" from it.
Their damage output on bosses is inferior though, so i guess started from guardians/shaper/elder/uber atziri etc you want burning spectres. Everything else except top-tier bosses will be melted by solar guards.

Solar guards likes spell echo/controlled destruction/elemental focus/minion damage/GMP(change in slower proj on fat bosses). Can use concentrated effect, cause both their attack are aoe (fireball/beam), also fire penetration if red slot, but that's inferior to other options.

Flesh offering also boosted cast speed, so it must boost rotation speed of TV's totems.

New shields are OP, yes. Also, amulets also have that new "#% block applied to spells" affix, so you can distribute those (block on amulet, mana on shield), because i think shield with both of them will be much more costly. And yeah, mana on block is sweet. Hate when i walk out of hellish damage pack with full life but no mana, want to change to that shield.

Why not? Zombies give additional survavibility and meat shield.

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NyRalph0 wrote:

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OberstGruber wrote:

can someone please answer me two quick questions:

Can i play the whole build with SG? Do i just have to take other spectres and other support gems for spectres? Which gems do you recommend?

thanks.

There are 2 or more threads for solar guards only, so look this.
F.e. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1623489

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neoblackheart wrote:

Would this be something that could be used in the build?

Spoiler

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Med1umentor wrote:

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vileArchon wrote:

Level 91 with this build, killed both shaper and uber atziri today with 3tuko and 1 WM. I did t16s with solar guards and omg it is so much better.
Has anyone tried doing uber or shaped with SG with success?

Yeah, on youtube you can find those.
Actually, someone claimed that SG is absolutely garbage on bosses, but that's definitely not true. Even more than that, their damage is quite comparable with TV.
The problem is with slower projectiles their AI turns absolutely retarded and they mostly won't even shoot at boss if they don't stand right next to him. Also if boss don't stay still - they miss a lot.
But on bosses like kitava my SG's was actually better than TV.
It would be good to not using slower projectiles, and instead use something like controlled destruction/concentrated effect, but it's another coloring (can't play maps without GMP), so only applicable to tabula rasa, which is not good.

P.S. Ah, yeah. Also the point is, that SG benefit from blood offering, so we need to make desicions sometimes, but they still hit hard, even with bone offering.

P.P.S. Also, i find SG much more better for HC leagues than actual TV. Just because the best defense is attack.
I get it, bone offering is good, but when i go from SG to TV, i got killed several times just because they were being retarded and do whatever they want except engaging enemy. And i just standing there with bone offering and empty mana because everyone hit me.
SG killing things even before i get to them. Also, my jewels have taunt on them, so most things don't even try to hit me, and die before they even get to spectres.
It can be that i'm still low level, so i will post my final opinion after i got to shaper/guardians/elder, but i think i will stick to solar guards in the end.
Oh, and of course burning spectres immune to reflect maps, that's cool, but i can live without it.
Ah, right, almost forgot. I don't use AG yet. So yeah, boss killing will be much better, but that retarded mapping traumatized me so much, so that not gonna change my mind.