[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

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therealjcool wrote:

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Rupenus wrote:

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1mark wrote:

Can this build work has league starter in Hardcore?
how it perform vs Reflect?

reflect is not an issue but i'd use rearguard and convert the damage to light + 40% cold(new passives) if i were you. rearguard is a must in HC with this build.

Have you ever played this build in HC, or just talking nonsense? :D
I've done two signal shot builds in Breach HC, see my earlier posts in this thread. And I sure as hell didn't use rearguard.

Only way to play this build properly in HC is as elementalist IMO. You don't kill yourself to reflect even when using Barrage, and it helps with the penetration issues, too.
Less dmg of course, but still enough...

well as HC player, i felt like he can min-max his dps according to the HC standards, reflect and all that. is reflect an issue? in a 100% conversion build that question is kinda pointless cause most of the time it is, you deal full ele damage. but is there a way to handle reflect with this build? yes. thats what i ment there. i will play this build as elementalist too in new league by the way

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Rupenus wrote:

this build has no dps problem, our problem is establishing a good survivability and flask sustainability. that's why we don't make this build with raider.

1- Quality of life: Flask management

Reason 2: Pathfinder tooltip dps is always misleading:

Thanks Rupenus I really appreciate the in depth answer! I am trying to get my bearings after primarily playing melee/BV builds the last league and a half so I am looking forward to trying this out. I try to min max and look at all of the options so I'm glad you were able to lead me in the right direction :)

(cut most out to not spam the page. His full answer is on pg169 if you want to look at this in the future)

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Rupenus wrote:

well as HC player, i felt like he can min-max his dps according to the HC standards, reflect and all that. is reflect an issue? in a 100% conversion build that question is kinda pointless cause most of the time it is, you deal full ele damage. but is there a way to handle reflect with this build? yes. thats what i ment there. i will play this build as elementalist too in new league by the way

Yeah, same.
I've worked out two possible tree viariations for me, first one uses Lioneye's fall to convert claw noodes and Energy from within to convert Blood Drinker & related nodes into ES (that's 30% increased ES with a 5% jewel):


2nd one is more or less how I played it last league:


I do like the extra ES and grabbing the new Force of nature from the first tree, am wondering though how much not having Alchemist will hurt in endgame...

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Rupenus wrote:

that guy thought 10% phys damage added as X elemental damage is same as "increased damage"

No one thought that.

Hi Guys,

After 100+ hours of /played till i came back on poe, i finaly killed Shaper and uberatziri. Thx to your build.

I didnt go on a budget. Most of my currencies went to this build (200+ex i think). Maybe i could have kill them before and for less currencies but i m quite bad in this kind of game.

A lot of fun, thx for all the tips you all gave me to upgrade my stuff.

With my final stuff, i sit at 33 501 for barrage in ho, and 57 272 for ts.
Obvouisly shaper didnt die in a sec, but anyway, it was more challenging to kill him with this low dps.

My stuff :

Hiho

i know a lot of ppl already asked this but how good will this perform as a league starter build?
I ask this again cause everyone is different in how fast he can get going with a build.

Let's say it has to perform decently up to tier 10 maps with 1-2ex budget and then with around 10ex(15 would be ok too but i think i hardly get more cause i get lazy when i reach a certain point) possible tier 16 maps?


And i will probably NEVER get skyforth.....as i said too lazy to farm constantly over some months....is it still worth doing that build?


Thx for answers :)


€dit: Is it ok leveling too or better use some of the "standart" level skills?

And last league i used the "King of the forest build" if anyone did that too maybe could you compare these builds for me?:)

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Rupenus wrote:

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léno wrote:

ok , blasting , and death's opus are better than harbinger crafted ?

at page 167, i did a comparison between leg reach - deaths opus and best mirrored bow. you can check from there.

if i'll get a 420 pdps bow, i'll try that too.

I've got a 390+ DPS Harb and a perfect Death's Opus and the Harb is by far more powerful IMHO. Both 6L, and although you do add more projectiles to Barrage, the DPS difference IMHO is much too large to compare. Death's Opus is smoother in the sense it has faster attack speed. I think a 350+ DPS Harb is where Harbs start feeling better. Just my opinion and limited testing yesterday :)

Could you use Deadeye Ascendant passive tree instead of Pathfinder?

As in new leagues it can be difficult to get the required unique flasks.

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MoleCakes wrote:

Could you use Deadeye Ascendant passive tree instead of Pathfinder?

As in new leagues it can be difficult to get the required unique flasks.

This is why this build is not a starter build :P

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linkstatic wrote:

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MoleCakes wrote:

Could you use Deadeye Ascendant passive tree instead of Pathfinder?

As in new leagues it can be difficult to get the required unique flasks.

This is why this build is not a starter build :P

I agree, that is why i was asking. As it might make it a little bit easier.

I understand this build is difficult as a starter and even CI can be hard to start with etc etc.

But i like a challenge and wanted to know peoples opinion so i could tweak it.