GhazzyTV - Essence Drain & Contagion (or Bane/Soulrend) Trickster [SC/HC/Uber Elder/Shaper]
" Yeah, I agree with you. This build is geared towards farming maps, not killing bosses. I started this build seeing that it was boss viable but it really isn't. It's a shame :( | |
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Well the good news is that you can just respec your char into a GC miner with minimal investment and have a build that can farm maps and bosses, and is no more clunky than ED. In fact it's easier imo. You don't have to base your whole combo on one slow moving spell that might or might not be linked with pierce (god forbid anyone play this build without pierce, I used it from 4L to 6L. It's more important than any other piece of the combo because without it you can't guarantee a mob pack will die in one combo).
Plus I would say personally, after being a total noob who just came back to PoE after starting an account and playing for a couple of hours in 2012, that this is a totally awful build for noobs. You don't learn a single thing about mob types, how most gear works, etc etc. The build will get you far as a noob yes, but you will get to the end game and find that you haven't learned diddly squat about game mechanics or boss fights, because you just cast one spell and run around for 5s every fight and don't even have to interact. For anyone just starting this league and PoE in general the choice is pretty obvious if you want to play a shadow and do end game cheap. GC Miner. Plus, the guides and youtube videos will jokingly say "yeah the worst part about the build is that you have to run back for all your LOOTZ"... well yeah, you're running back because you lack the damage to kill the mob in the time it takes you to shield charge through it, where GC miner can just blow the whole mob up in 3 clicks and doesn't have to backtrack HOPING he didn't miss a chaos or exalted orb on the ground. So while you spend an extra 3m scouring the map looking for missed drops, the GC miner makes up the clear speed difference with trash mobs and is already on his next map. Now if both of you decide to kill the boss at the end, which you want to do for atlas completion if that's your thing, or more obviously for the good loot drop, then the GC miner kills the boss and clears another map before the ED trickster kills the first boss. What's the debate? | |
" Matter of personal taste, I prefer lvl 3 CWDT with lvl 5 IC. " I do what I can :D @Garyas has been helping me tons over the past few weeks, a few others as well in the 185 pages we're up on now... >.< " Hey, Let's see.... Get a +1 corrupted Tabula Rasa instead of your CoD, it will skyrocket your DPS. You need a Witchfire Brew Flask, it will also increase your DPS significantly. Keep in mind that 2 curses will require you to spec in to that extra curse node up top of the witch area! " Thank you, means a lot to hear that my time & work invested is appreciated <3 Hope you enjoy the stream then :D " Dual curse approach is my personal preference for speeding through maps safer, though for other playstyles the nodes can be invested towards more dmg instead and you simply remove the defensive curse (as an example). " As mentioned in the guide, the staff version is the easiest way to kill bosses super easy. CoU is a very cheap +2 option for you, later on you'd want to get a +3 chaos gem lvl staff :) " This. ^^ Yeah I thought about the FAQ but honestly, I have, from what I've seen, the most build guides in Path of Exile compared to any other content creator in our community. And more incoming... It's almost impossible for me to keep up with a FAQ that would be changing from patch to patch as well. I'd rather answer questions as it also allows me to stay on top of each build for when it's time to update them. + I like helping out. " This. :) " Change pierce for Decay if your empower isn't high enough. If you're still having issues after that, let me know. " +1 Tabula Rasa will skyrocket that DPS so much it's insane. " This! :) " Did you change in the skill section that the gem links for ED is suppose to be socketed in your weapon? " I'd personally start with the shield & a dagger or BotC if you can afford so you can start shield charging and then get a witchfire flask, after that I'd probably try to get that +1 Tabula Rasa going! " Thank you for the help :) Glad it got sorted! " Hey, Cheers! Matter of taste really, Bisco's Leash should still be top tier clear speed thanks to Rampage but the abyssal belt is solid AF! Though, not many abyssal jewels that scales the DoT dmg in the game I'm afraid! :/ " After the ED changes, Winds of Change was removed from the guide as the projectile dmg increasements no longer scales the DoT dmg. " Hey, Cheers! Well, for boss killing you'd want to get a +2 or a +3 chaos gem lvl staff preferably with spell dmg as well on. And you can always remove the dual curse nodes up top of the witch starter area and remove the defensive blasphemy aura if you wish to invest in to either more dmg or more jewels. " A lot of people, though I still recommend a staff approach for boss killing as it will be easier on your wallet as well as smoother imo. " Hey, Cheers! :) Well, getting a +1 chest (elder/shaper) or +1 corrupted Tabula Rasa is one of the most straight forward logical choices from your current position. 1) You never have to do any other casts, just use the flask and bam you got a Blasphemy Despair going for the duration. 2) It's a matter of taste, I liked the defensive gain of the spell block from them as a high budget option together with the Rathpith Globe. 3) Yes, it really helps sustain the "rotation" you do vs bosses. 4) Grand Specs seems to have skyrocketed in value, sorry about that. A high flat numeric value on a mana roll from abyssal jewels works fine and you can get other decent stats, mainly defensively though as it's hard to find jewels with modifiers that actually increases the DoT dmg in the game on the abyssal jewels. 5) Last I checked I believe they do stack, though it's impossible for me to verify right now because of how bugged out the wiki STILL is :/ 6) Well with a +1 chest it will skyrocket significantly. " Hey! This might come out as a rude answer but this is the easiest way to show you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE-DX_5uIe0&t=148s Let me know if you need it elaborated! " +1 Tabula would be the best upgrade right now. " Looks very solid though the CoD is very defensively focused. If you get yourself a +1 gem lvl chest or Tabula you'd increase your DPS significantly. Though I feel like I have to repeat myself again regarding the end-game bosses: The build is designed for fast mapping, not end-game bosses even if it's doable. I'd recommend a +2 or +3 chaos gem lvl staff for end-game boss farming as it's just so much smoother. " Nice gratz! Using other jewels before is obviously better than not using them! Pierce is literally only for the people who really prefer to have that vs trash map clearing vs enemies with "nearby allies cannot die" mod and/or Vaal Totems, I never liked Pierce even before the Projectile changes to ED. Poison or Decay will be TONS stronger in terms of DMG, and as long as you have Allelopathy gloves you really shouldn't ever need to use Pierce. " "Swift Killer" Ascendancy! " This is one of the biggest reasons the ED/Contagion build is considered an amazingly strong leaguestarter. However, it is pretty easy to convert it to a boss killer as well. And it is very possible to make the 1h/shield version kill both Shaper & Uber Atziri, though it will require a lot of precision work & currency. But I completely agree with you that this is a very fun & strong leaguestarter build to get your currency going to fund other characters. If someone enjoys the build they can invest further to bring it to other means though the design of the guide is targeted towards currency building with next to no currency requirement to get it going for mapping :) " You don't need Endurance Charges to proc IC, though the duration will be VERY short. However, that's intended for the build as it is only there to keep you safe from Bone Husks and/or Porcupine explosions which otherwise would pose a risk of instantly killing you. ---------------------- @Smallzz: Yet people, including myself have killed both Shaper & Uber Atziri with this exact build guide. ED / Contagion is a bit more complex to make it function for the end-game means, absolutely doable but requires a fair bit of knowledge. Though, as mentioned earlier the guide is designed for easy map clearing with next to no currency investment. And if you do this properly you should breeze through yellow & most red tier maps as you see a lot of people have commented and included their gear in the comments. No need to be rude & trash talk the guide, specially as your arguements are to some extent proven wrong on pretty much every second page of comments throughout the guide. Though, I will not argue against the fact that a GC miner build works a bit more effectively with about the same currency investment, but then again, that's not a ED/Contagion build and is played completely differently. Guides: https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ghazzy-guide-hub
YT: https://www.youtube.com/GhazzyTV Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/ghazzytv | |
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2 things
1) how do I get a +1chaos tabulator a +2/3chaos staff? 2) this build guide says Uber Izaro/shaper in the title except every single person running the build is saying they can’t do endgame bosses...so is it shaper viable or is it not? | |
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Just like to say thank you for the build, using it on abyss on xbox an managed to get to lvl 83 with some fairly bad gear lol, my highest char so far so fairly happy, cant afford any the recommended gear though, think i had one exalted drop an ppl asking for 5 an up for the items, think i managed to loot over 4 tabs of uniques with none helpful to me but they give me options to try other things.
Managed to get to lvl7 maps so far which i thought no bad for first time an bad gear, will continue to plod along an hopefully get enough currency buy some of the recommended gear, but yeah thnxz again, having fun | |
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Hey guys, i picked this build (not the same exact skill points, did some variations on my own but still ED trickster MoM) for abyss and i wanna share my experience with it.
I'm currently lvl 91 and i've just switched to the Low Life version of the build, but played up until lvl 90 with Life based MoM, killed red tier elder 2 times and did t15 maps with no problems with it. EDIT: I forgot to mention that i play Softcore, i wouldnt recommend tweaking the tree like i did in HC ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) My MoM skill tree + gear First of all i wanna share my old setup https://pastebin.com/Jzkd5HmN as you can see my gear was really no big deal, i think i spent overall about 90 chaos all on the first days of the league, so now you can find better items for way less. 2) Single target/Bosses To anyone who's struggling with single target DPS you have to keep in mind that this version of the ed/mom trickster is mainly focused on mid tier mapping to get you going with currency farm, not to kill red tier elder or shaper. If you really want to ramp up your single target you have to invest in 2 spreading rot jewels + allelopathy gloves, socketed with Void manipulation, swift affliction, controlled destruction, efficacy This setup + wither totem MELTS bosses and gives you some great single target, since ED alone is really bad even with +1 gems tabula. Just be careful since you have to stand still while channeling blight. To do this you have to remove the CWDT setup and use brine king (unless you have some other form of stun immunity) but it's worth it in my experience. 3) Lightpoacher Yes it's good even on this build for flash farming maps, try it. 4) Low Life option At some point you'll have to decide if you wanna spend your hard earned currency on this character or just build another and it's 100% your call. Just wanna point out that the LowLife version is super powerful and even tankier due to the ES regen being more powerful than life regen. Sure, every character can become very strong when you invest 20+ exalted in it, but still, i'm loving it even more than the life/mom one. Just be prepared to spend a shit-ton of currency and regrets to respec if you happen to go this way. you can check my current character and skill tree on my profile. (gear is still pretty bad other than the amulet and the chest because i spent everything i had on them :D ) Of course the option to just stick to this guide is there, you have plenty of room for upgrades 5) Final Considerations One of the best starters i've ever made, i think i might roll one the next league too, because it just feels like the perfect mix of low budget + satisfaction while playing (clear 2 screens with 1 projectile? yeah baby) Big props to ghazzy for creating this guide, it helped a lot as a starting point to make my own small changes to better fit my playstyle. Last edited by Maikk999 on Dec 25, 2017, 4:35:19 PM
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" Hey! :) No, that wasn't rude at all, thanks! I managed to do it a few days ago using the same technique (like I said earlier, I didn't think you could "abuse" the system like that), but thanks a lot for your guide and your extraordinary dedication! :) | |
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cwdt and immortal call max level? because you don't wrote anything after them
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Guess it entirely depends on your idea of the word "viable". When you put "viable" in the guide that means, to a lot of people, that your build can safely farm said places. Without a huge currency investment you aren't safely farming any boss with a one shot mechanic, because you're sitting there trying to augment the pitiful boss damage of ED with about 4-5 supporting skills.
Meanwhile, for the same currency investment many builds can clear higher level content safer and faster. I wasn't trashing your guide, I was trashing people's expectations of what they want out of a trickster. If you start one as a league starter who's an experienced PoE player (I wouldn't recommend trickster for noobs cause it teaches you SHIT gear itemization compared to other builds. You'll be ignoring jewelry with accuracy, ignoring elemental damage attack rolls and looking for spell damage, etc etc. Not a good character to start a total noob off with IMO), then you're gonna make bank farming trash mobs. But if you want to clear the Corrupted boss from Terrace for your map completion, you better save 5 of your portals to that map for the boss fight UNLESS you have enough money pumped into the char that you could be doing T15 maps with another char. And that to me is where you falsely advertised your build. So yeah any noob that comes and buys my old ED gear from me gets the same spiel in my hideout. "Don't buy my gear, make another build". What do they do? Well screw this loser in his hideout, the forums say I can do shaper with a tabula rasa!!! Yeah if you want to watch your xp bar reset after every map boss above T10 go for it. I'm not posting on your guide to stroke egos or make social points with people I don't know. I'm trying to save some noob the heartbreak of using this as his league starter hoping that he can clear his atlas with the build. Yeah you can, but in the time it takes you to do that with this build I could roll three other builds and get them to 85. SO GLHF spend your currency where you want it, ain't my chaos. | |
" Can you please recommend me a way to convert this build into a GC miner? I've already followed the guide to a point where I would feel like I wasted a stupid amount of time on it to ditch it completely. I only have time to game a few hours a day (8-6 office job yay). |
