[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

I see!


This is what my lightning arrow looks like atm.



What are the values I should aim for?


I understand that I am doing things wrong, but I have a hard time correcting them.


I will try harder to find more crit on my gear. To be honest I had more or less forgotten about it at this point. It's been a while since I used a passive in a crit node.

Anyone willing to point out one or two imediate upgrades? Aswell as a few long term?


You said my bow was bad, any suggestions on what to swap to? A 6-link harbinger is way out of my league for the time being. Although I plan on getting one eventually.
Last edited by Erayo#1284 on Jan 26, 2017, 3:50:01 PM
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Erayo wrote:
I see!


This is what my lightning arrow looks like atm.



What are the values I should aim for?


I understand that I am doing things wrong, but I have a hard time correcting them.


I will try harder to find more crit on my gear. To be honest I had more or less forgotten about it at this point. It's been a while since I used a passive in a crit node.

Anyone willing to point out one or two imediate upgrades? Aswell as a few long term?


You said my bow was bad, any suggestions on what to swap to? A 6-link harbinger is way out of my league for the time being. Although I plan on getting one eventually.


It's actually better than I thought, now goes the chores: packing crit chance and multi without screwing rest of things, means getting "increased global critical chance" and "increased global critical multiplier" where you can:

and so on and so on, above items aren't that great, so I guess they make good example.

Rule of the thumb is that critical chance is generally speaking easier to get than critical multiplier, so the multiplier should be priority. Althought you can't neglect chance at all. (chance says how often and multi says how strong are your critical strikes)


Also I never said that your bow is bad, I said that going crit is relatively hard with it (yet doable)

edit: Dont look for +energy shield items tho! you wanna +X to maximum life instead"
Burn all the orbs!
Last edited by skuadak#1891 on Jan 26, 2017, 4:02:57 PM
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skuadak wrote:
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Erayo wrote:
I see!


This is what my lightning arrow looks like atm.



What are the values I should aim for?


I understand that I am doing things wrong, but I have a hard time correcting them.


I will try harder to find more crit on my gear. To be honest I had more or less forgotten about it at this point. It's been a while since I used a passive in a crit node.

Anyone willing to point out one or two imediate upgrades? Aswell as a few long term?


You said my bow was bad, any suggestions on what to swap to? A 6-link harbinger is way out of my league for the time being. Although I plan on getting one eventually.


It's actually better than I thought, now goes the chores: packing crit chance and multi without screwing rest of things, means getting "increased global critical chance" and "increased global critical multiplier" where you can:

and so on and so on, above items aren't that great, so I guess they make good example.

Rule of the thumb is that critical chance is generally speaking easier to get than critical multiplier, so the multiplier should be priority. Althought you can't neglect chance at all. (chance says how often and multi says how strong are your critical strikes)


Also I never said that your bow is bad, I said that going crit is relatively hard with it (yet doable)

edit: Dont look for +energy shield items tho! you wanna +X to maximum life instead"



Will do!

I am going to swap out my bow for something better. Preferably a 6-link harbinger. But man those are expensive :/

Last edited by Erayo#1284 on Jan 26, 2017, 5:18:40 PM
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Erayo wrote:
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skuadak wrote:
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Erayo wrote:
I see!


This is what my lightning arrow looks like atm.



What are the values I should aim for?


I understand that I am doing things wrong, but I have a hard time correcting them.


I will try harder to find more crit on my gear. To be honest I had more or less forgotten about it at this point. It's been a while since I used a passive in a crit node.

Anyone willing to point out one or two imediate upgrades? Aswell as a few long term?


You said my bow was bad, any suggestions on what to swap to? A 6-link harbinger is way out of my league for the time being. Although I plan on getting one eventually.


It's actually better than I thought, now goes the chores: packing crit chance and multi without screwing rest of things, means getting "increased global critical chance" and "increased global critical multiplier" where you can:

and so on and so on, above items aren't that great, so I guess they make good example.

Rule of the thumb is that critical chance is generally speaking easier to get than critical multiplier, so the multiplier should be priority. Althought you can't neglect chance at all. (chance says how often and multi says how strong are your critical strikes)


Also I never said that your bow is bad, I said that going crit is relatively hard with it (yet doable)

edit: Dont look for +energy shield items tho! you wanna +X to maximum life instead"



Will do!

I am going to swap out my bow for something better. Preferably a 6-link harbinger. But man those are expensive :/



Don't start upgrading by 6l bow, 6l chests cost 30c+ white ones even 12c. I just dont recooment tabula rasa.
Bow is going to be expensive without any links anyway.
Burn all the orbs!
Alrighty!

And, while dps is nice and all that, to me my dps doesn't seem to be much of a problem. Yeah sure, if bosses die faster they can't kill me either.
But am I around where I should be in terms of hp and defensive stats? What could I add in my skilltree to help me survive better?
Vitality void and Vaal pact? Along with higher dps?
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Erayo wrote:
Alrighty!

And, while dps is nice and all that, to me my dps doesn't seem to be much of a problem. Yeah sure, if bosses die faster they can't kill me either.
But am I around where I should be in terms of hp and defensive stats? What could I add in my skilltree to help me survive better?
Vitality void and Vaal pact? Along with higher dps?


They are neat that's for sure. Sometime V Pact backfires but, still, they are both worth taking.

Spoiler


Burn all the orbs!
Last edited by skuadak#1891 on Jan 26, 2017, 5:26:30 PM
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skuadak wrote:
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Erayo wrote:
Alrighty!

And, while dps is nice and all that, to me my dps doesn't seem to be much of a problem. Yeah sure, if bosses die faster they can't kill me either.
But am I around where I should be in terms of hp and defensive stats? What could I add in my skilltree to help me survive better?
Vitality void and Vaal pact? Along with higher dps?


They are neat that's for sure. Sometime V Pact backfires but, still, they are both worth taking.

Spoiler






Alright! I'll look for more crit and whatnot on all of my pieces!

Thanks for the help :) Very much appreciated!


I'll keep reading this thread if anyone else have a few suggestions on improvements aswell!
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skuadak wrote:
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Wikid0 wrote:
Hey guys, so I could use some help here, I am pretty sure I know the problem, I have low life and dont feel my DPS is there, downing bosses can be really difficult.

My guess is that I have too many uniques. I did just upgrade my bow to Reach, but I couldnt afford a 6l version. If I was to replace some of the uniques which would you recommend?

Not sure how to link my characters gear.

Wikid


Set your profile to public -> go into ur account -> privacy settings -> uncheck first box ("set profile as private"). No need for linking items here.

If u use reach I guess you alsp use TS, so you should be fine with 1x 6L for now. Decent rare chest costs less than 1/3 of 6l reach. Or you could buy cheap white 6l and chaos-spam something out of it. (or I was lucky with this metod (total 30c or so) and overestimate the chance for getting something nice, just saying)

buying already crafted is safer probably:

http://poe.trade/search/aukasiyakarago
the problem is that people can't put their shit together and in effect you have pretty nice chests like "Bramble Ward" Zodiac and utter potato like "Rapture Shelter" both for 2ex. So it's good to be carefull there.



Looks like my profile was public but the box had the character list hidden so I unchecked that.

My chest is actually what my 6L is on its a Kintsugi decent rolls too, but I didnt think about this, if I switch to Reach should I still be using GMP or should i go to something like slower/faster Projectiles?

It does seem that Barrage does really good ST dps versus my TS unless I am right in the bosses face spamming TS so all the bursts hit them.

The boots im kinda meh about, I like the extra frenzy charge but not having much movement speed to start is kinda annoying. And I am not sure how much the amulet helps. It allows me to get power and frenzy charges without needing to use ass mark or even frenzy but I use frenzy to apply ass mark at the start of a map on when fighting bosses.

let me know your thoughts

Wikid
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Wikid0 wrote:
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skuadak wrote:
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Wikid0 wrote:
Hey guys, so I could use some help here, I am pretty sure I know the problem, I have low life and dont feel my DPS is there, downing bosses can be really difficult.

My guess is that I have too many uniques. I did just upgrade my bow to Reach, but I couldnt afford a 6l version. If I was to replace some of the uniques which would you recommend?

Not sure how to link my characters gear.

Wikid


Set your profile to public -> go into ur account -> privacy settings -> uncheck first box ("set profile as private"). No need for linking items here.

If u use reach I guess you alsp use TS, so you should be fine with 1x 6L for now. Decent rare chest costs less than 1/3 of 6l reach. Or you could buy cheap white 6l and chaos-spam something out of it. (or I was lucky with this metod (total 30c or so) and overestimate the chance for getting something nice, just saying)

buying already crafted is safer probably:

http://poe.trade/search/aukasiyakarago
the problem is that people can't put their shit together and in effect you have pretty nice chests like "Bramble Ward" Zodiac and utter potato like "Rapture Shelter" both for 2ex. So it's good to be carefull there.



Looks like my profile was public but the box had the character list hidden so I unchecked that.

My chest is actually what my 6L is on its a Kintsugi decent rolls too, but I didnt think about this, if I switch to Reach should I still be using GMP or should i go to something like slower/faster Projectiles?

It does seem that Barrage does really good ST dps versus my TS unless I am right in the bosses face spamming TS so all the bursts hit them.

The boots im kinda meh about, I like the extra frenzy charge but not having much movement speed to start is kinda annoying. And I am not sure how much the amulet helps. It allows me to get power and frenzy charges without needing to use ass mark or even frenzy but I use frenzy to apply ass mark at the start of a map on when fighting bosses.

let me know your thoughts

Wikid


I know, Darkrays just suck. It's great to have extra dodge, charge and shit but when you loose charges they are so annoying. Plus as long as you use frenzy you need nothing else for frenzy charges generation anyway. Also "on death" mechanisms are very unreliable when you need them most (boss fights)

That's perfect replace for darkrays imo:
Hp, eva, spell dodge (24-26% with ascendancy alone) mov speed. I dont remember, I paid like 10c mayby (srsly im not sure here). Thats worst possible roll, still, fukc darkrays, even +2.

Also, 1 more frenzy is neat, but by no means obligatory.
(vut srsly, it gives some kick, it's sweet upgrade cost/gain wise)

Your ammy and belt are not that nice tbh. If you don't have $ issues aim for Something with Crit Multi, Life, Flat phys, crit chance, some resistances. (in that order) On agate, lapis, onyx base,

doryani belt is not that nice because it misses life roll, rustic sash or leather belt with life is much better

Rings are fine enough, gloves too, helmet as well

Burn all the orbs!
Last edited by skuadak#1891 on Jan 26, 2017, 6:49:27 PM
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skuadak wrote:
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Wikid0 wrote:


Looks like my profile was public but the box had the character list hidden so I unchecked that.

My chest is actually what my 6L is on its a Kintsugi decent rolls too, but I didnt think about this, if I switch to Reach should I still be using GMP or should i go to something like slower/faster Projectiles?

It does seem that Barrage does really good ST dps versus my TS unless I am right in the bosses face spamming TS so all the bursts hit them.

The boots im kinda meh about, I like the extra frenzy charge but not having much movement speed to start is kinda annoying. And I am not sure how much the amulet helps. It allows me to get power and frenzy charges without needing to use ass mark or even frenzy but I use frenzy to apply ass mark at the start of a map on when fighting bosses.

let me know your thoughts

Wikid


I know, Darkrays just suck. It's great to have extra dodge, charge and shit but when you loose charges they are so annoying.

That's perfect solution:
Hp, eva, spell dodge (24-26% with ascendancy alone) mov speed. I dont remember, I paid like 10c mayby (srsly im not sure here). Thats worst possible roll, still, fukc darkrays, even +2.

Also, 1 more frenzy is neat, but no means obligatory tho.
(it gives some kick, it's sweet upgrade cost/gain wise)

I didn't check ammys yet, id love one, but they probably cost a lot?



Im running Victaros acuity, I liked it alot back when it came out so I grabbed it again.

Those boots would be really good but I would need to make up about 30% lighting resist somewhere and I dont even have 6c anymore need to farm more.

Wikid

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