[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Wikid0 wrote:

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skuadak wrote:

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Wikid0 wrote:

Looks like my profile was public but the box had the character list hidden so I unchecked that.

My chest is actually what my 6L is on its a Kintsugi decent rolls too, but I didnt think about this, if I switch to Reach should I still be using GMP or should i go to something like slower/faster Projectiles?

It does seem that Barrage does really good ST dps versus my TS unless I am right in the bosses face spamming TS so all the bursts hit them.

The boots im kinda meh about, I like the extra frenzy charge but not having much movement speed to start is kinda annoying. And I am not sure how much the amulet helps. It allows me to get power and frenzy charges without needing to use ass mark or even frenzy but I use frenzy to apply ass mark at the start of a map on when fighting bosses.

let me know your thoughts

Wikid

I know, Darkrays just suck. It's great to have extra dodge, charge and shit but when you loose charges they are so annoying.

That's perfect solution:
Hp, eva, spell dodge (24-26% with ascendancy alone) mov speed. I dont remember, I paid like 10c mayby (srsly im not sure here). Thats worst possible roll, still, fukc darkrays, even +2.

Also, 1 more frenzy is neat, but no means obligatory tho.
(it gives some kick, it's sweet upgrade cost/gain wise)

I didn't check ammys yet, id love one, but they probably cost a lot?

Im running Victaros acuity, I liked it alot back when it came out so I grabbed it again.

Those boots would be really good but I would need to make up about 30% lighting resist somewhere and I dont even have 6c anymore need to farm more.

Wikid

how about these? iirc they cost close to nothing, too
they screw defense pretty badly, but it's still so much to like about them

anyway, so far probably best option are some rares with res, hp, mov speed and eva

I'm rather poor fellow by default, so I can't talk about accuities, skyforths, headhunters and so on, too

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_Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

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NeverSink wrote:

Hey,

I'd just like to tell (announce?) 2 things:

1) I've recently started rewriting the guide from the ground up. It's been way too long, since this guide has received a real update and it's about time. It'll take a few weeks (or maybe more), but I have some big plans :).

2) I'd like to thank everyone who keeps answering the questions and keeping up a good discussion. You're doing the community a great service.

Will be interesting. No offense but not really a fan of you joking on Reddit "maybe I'll finally update the guide this time lolz" when for the longest time you've left out the most crucial interactions for this kind of build through a lot of the most recent patches.

Admittedly a smaller sample but from those that have whispered me in-game for help they are always surprised to see I'm a Pathfinder because in this thread Deadeye is higher on the list, so it "must be the best." It's also super misleading to have 6 Ascendancy Trees from Patch 2.2 when most classes have been updated or adjusted.

I've always said that I appreciate your work on the Filter and other content, but honestly from my standpoint for this thread you've left a lot of newer players to hang out and dry. Thank you though for at least trying to update.

You're absolutely right. Joking about it was pretty low.

This is pretty much the same primary motivation for me. I'm receiving multiple help requests daily, with questions that could've been prevented by providing up-to-date information in the first place. The fact that other good guides exist (king of the forest etc) does not excuse, the lack of attention to updates on my side.

Updating the guide was always on my list, but I've dug myself a grand hole, consisting out of non-templated assets and length capped posts. Every time I've started editing it, it deleted most of the item references. It also required a lot of time, something (already very limited by a full-time job) that I currently have to distribute, between several projects. So, after seeing those annoyances, I decided "screw this, I'll go do that Python project instead".

I've come to the conclusion, that I just have to rewrite everything. It'll be faster and much more clean..

( Also, I've wanted to rework the TS-Calculator, but I can't get a certain feature to work, so I'll leave this it out for now. )

EDIT: Your edit is too late, that being said you were right. I messed up, didn't have to edit it :P

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NeverSink wrote:

Hey,

I'd just like to tell (announce?) 2 things:

1) I've recently started rewriting the guide from the ground up. It's been way too long, since this guide has received a real update and it's about time. It'll take a few weeks (or maybe more), but I have some big plans :).

2) I'd like to thank everyone who keeps answering the questions and keeping up a good discussion. You're doing the community a great service.

Great news. I'm already looking forward to it.

Been struggling to describe my problem but have it in a nutshell now.

On this forum NeverSink has a really good and helpful thread. He states how good Tornado Shot is and the amazing damage and shows this image:



whereas mine is



There's a huge difference and yet my skill tree is only marginally different and my bow is 350 DPS. How is this so different? Is it the difference between DeadEye and PathFinder as some are suggesting?

My Tornado Shot damage was including using two flasks (Atziri's Promise and Overflowing Challice) -- see earlier post

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Davidjb wrote:

Been struggling to describe my problem but have it in a nutshell now.

Different support gems/old patch images/different attack speed/different jewels/different gear
Maybe he posted it under all buffs.
Here is mine.Almost all buffs.

@NeverSink: I actually edited because that came out a bit harsh and I was on mobile at the time. Forgive me as it has been frustrating at times. If you need help testing let me know, have my free 100 Respec this patch and about 4-5 Trees I'm doing for my guide atm.


@David: I've not forgotten about you friend :)

Wow, amazing. 140,000 damage per second. I am about 12,000 DPS on the same screen. That's a factor of 1000% difference. My skill tree (apart from DeadEye) is v similar to that posted on this thread. I am using similar (if not identical jewels) all at Max 20. My bow is 350 DPS. Where does the factor 1000% come in? I am doing something seriously wrong

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Davidjb wrote:

Wow, amazing. 140,000 damage per second. I am about 12,000 DPS on the same screen. That's a factor of 1000% difference. My skill tree (apart from DeadEye) is v similar to that posted on this thread. I am using similar (if not identical jewels) all at Max 20. My bow is 350 DPS. Where does the factor 1000% come in? I am doing something seriously wrong

I wouldn't focus too much on paper DPS tbh, not really about what number you can get with everything up, with all the Vaal souls, etc. More about how you truly perform in maps/other content and how fluid your gameplay is.

He also has a Legacy Reach which produces higher damage numbers compared to Harbingers lower than around 450 pDPS or so, not possible compared to your budget atm, so I wouldn't worry. With your bow and gear tweaks I'm sure around 70-80 quite easy to get or at least shoot for.