[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Fritso wrote:
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Suzim wrote:
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_KaOtiC_ wrote:
Poachers is no good because you cant maintain frenzy charges with it on bosses when the dps matters the most. I did hatred + herald of ice + curse on hit + assassins mark so you can be lazy and keep your 3-4 power charges. Then I'm use frenzy and blood rage to maintain frenzy charges. I lost only a bit of dps to herald of ash but tbh with all the extra damage plus frenzy damage i don't even notice it. Using manual ec has made the build go from lazy 2 buttons to around 5 actively. What are people doing for leech? I'm finding it very lacking on bosses i might even switch from ts to split or ice shot so i can get life leech in there also.
Also if you have the space split arrow cull iir iiq fits in well for trash clearing lower maps/finishing bosses, you really see a lot more uniques and currency this way.


What you are saying about maintain Frenzy on CoH don't make any sense, if you can't maintain the frenzy on CoH you won't maintain the power charges too. But at least the frenzy can be charged by an skill and power charges don't.


Using Frenzy - PCoC (Power Charge on Crit) solves the issue, and allows you to build both frenzy and power charges on bosses.

That's the exact reason I use only 1 setup to build charges, and curse at the same time:
Frenzy - GMP - Chain - PCoC - CoH - Assassin's Mark

You need the extra 6L though....


If you're using Frenzy+PCoC to generate both types of charges in a boss fight; wouldn't a defensive curse like temp chains or enfeeble to make the fight safer be a better choice vs bosses?
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So if I have drillneck and 20% quality pierce, as well as the pierce passive nodes, what gem do i replace with pierce. The current TS 6 link is listed without pierce. Frenzy only lists 5 gems so I can add the pierce to that.
Hi, I followed your build but I went duelist ndies first, I am level 46, should I reroll or keep it? I did not see your leveling guide going more to shadow and east nodes
Why not Vaal Pact?
Can anybody tell me, why my CoH +Assasins Mark + Chain + SA not work ... I gain just the Frenzy Charges from the Blooddance Shoes but no Curse from Assasins M. and no Trigger Effect from Chain and SA??


Im a little confused .. whats wrong ? Im LvL 56 with 35% Crit ...

Thx for Help !!!
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DoctaLinker wrote:
Hello, NeverSink,

Are you sure we have to kill everyone in Cruel and avoid getting the 16% more physical damage bonus by helping Oak? If yes, could you explain my why? I ask this because everyone's helping Oak in Cruel nowadays.

Thanks in advance for the great build!
(Still waiting for a Pierce version of it which's gonna be amazing, for sure.)


hello all,

I didn't see this answered. This does seem like a lot of physical damage to give up for a passive point. Anybody have some feedback on this? Thank you.

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Last edited by Enthar#6273 on Jul 13, 2015, 9:41:56 PM
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Summoner wrote:
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Fritso wrote:


Using Frenzy - PCoC (Power Charge on Crit) solves the issue, and allows you to build both frenzy and power charges on bosses.

That's the exact reason I use only 1 setup to build charges, and curse at the same time:
Frenzy - GMP - Chain - PCoC - CoH - Assassin's Mark

You need the extra 6L though....


If you're using Frenzy+PCoC to generate both types of charges in a boss fight; wouldn't a defensive curse like temp chains or enfeeble to make the fight safer be a better choice vs bosses?


That frenzy setup he is using is pointless in boss fight you are using very weak attack 3+ times to build charges. Instead you could just use frenzy pcoc and 4 dps adding links. Frenzy is stronger then ts against 1 target if you have it linked correctly, then you have a normal chain split arrow coh to use 1 time to a apply curse or manually curse. The amount of time spent building charges with weak frenzy you could of just killed the boss using proper frenzy without AM applied.
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Fellfrosch09 wrote:
Can anybody tell me, why my CoH +Assasins Mark + Chain + SA not work ... I gain just the Frenzy Charges from the Blooddance Shoes but no Curse from Assasins M. and no Trigger Effect from Chain and SA??


Im a little confused .. whats wrong ? Im LvL 56 with 35% Crit ...

Thx for Help !!!

Are you 1 shotting the monster? And you are using split arrow to attack to apply the curse? There is no trigger effect you must use split arrow to attack a group to apply the curse from coh. Then go back to your main dps skill to kill them. This is why I prefer herald of ice over herald of ash with coh and curse of choice, so i dont have to try juggle frenzy, blood rage, enduring cry and split arrow. The curse will just apply as i use tornado shot and i just need to hit enduring cry and frenzy occasionally.
With the leech changes in 2.0 and the change to Ondar's/no CWDT setup, how are you sustaining reflect without EC/Coil?
Last edited by Cospri#2366 on Jul 14, 2015, 12:24:52 AM
Awesome guide . May I ask is it that the gem set-up for tornado shot in 1.3 (tornado shot - added fire - physical projectile damage - faster attack - gmp - increase critical damage ) does not work on 2.0 any more ?

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