False Minimum Hardware Requirements

In my past 4 gaming laptops with dedicated graphics...the hardware noticeably declines at the 2-year mark, and REALLY gets screwy at 5 years. And thats with cooling pads and stuff trying to minimize overheating.

I still have my laptop with an 870m and that freaking card hardly runs at all (even on older games), and I really didn't tax it all that badly. I mean it could be a combo of all the other crap getting old too, but its significantly noticeable.

I was always told if you REALLY want to stay current (and have the money), upgrading the graphics card every 2-3 years is the way to go because the improvements and differences are so significant. Comparing at the same level card ofc.
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In my past 4 gaming laptops with dedicated graphics...the hardware noticeably declines at the 2-year mark, and REALLY gets screwy at 5 years. And thats with cooling pads and stuff trying to minimize overheating.
Laptops are more prone to this issue than properly built desktop PCs. Tiny fans and batteries wear out noticeably fast, and it isn't practical for the average person to repaste their CPU/GPU or replace thermal pads altogether.

I still have an i5-2500K build that runs a GTX 580. Obviously, it can't handle anything heavy these days, but with proper care, it lasted me 9 years easily. Regular cleaning and the occasional repasting (both CPU and GPU) went a long way.

That Sandy Bridge CPU, in particular, was an absolute beast, running on a solid overclock (5GHz) for nearly a decade. Seeing modern Intel chips, however, they just don't make them like they used to.

I fully expect my 7800X3D to last me at least as long, though. Fingers crossed.
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It also matters how long you have been using hardware for. Most hardware is supposed to work 5+ years without degradation in performance, but past youll notice a drop

Why? What's the cause?
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TRPV1#7216 wrote:
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It also matters how long you have been using hardware for. Most hardware is supposed to work 5+ years without degradation in performance, but past youll notice a drop

Why? What's the cause?


Sometimes I wished people would just take the 5 seconds to google the answer to a question because this is stuff you can find out very easily.

For the lazy:

- high temperatures stress materials, dry thermal paste (that's why you should change it out regularily) and accelerate chemical breakdown
- mechanical wear on moving parts like fans as their lubricants dry out, bearings fail
- electrical stress / capacitors age and become less effective
- SSDs are comprised of NAND flash cells which have limited cycles with which they can write, meaning that when you save/delete data you gradually wear them out, tho this is less of an issue on your performance and I'm only including it because it's part of the broader explanation
- dust can block airflow which causes overheating
- humidity can cause corrosion

And lastly, that rig you bought 5 years ago may have been great at the time, but software and even your OS evolves consistently and demands more resources. So even if it ain't broken, it may feel slower
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How a PoE 2 complaing get so far in a PoE 1 section is the real matter here.
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TrunksD2#2172 wrote:

How a PoE 2 complaing get so far in a PoE 1 section is the real matter here.


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TrunksD2#2172 wrote:
How a PoE 2 complaing get so far in a PoE 1 section is the real matter here.

The forum moderation is a bit... errr... I think "inconsistent" is the kindest I could be (?)

If you post in Technical Support (Path of Exile 1) about lag spikes when using WiFi or having FPS issues on an old-ish laptop and mention PoE 2 when asking for help troubleshooting, your thread will be reliably moved to Early Access Bug Reports in under ten minutes. Now, neither of those things constitute an in-game bug and are even remotely pertinent to QA staff, but who gives a fuck - certainly not the moderators. Why does the former even have "Path of Exile 1" in its name when i) there is no PoE 2 section, and ii) GGG don't even post there? Eh, why not? Just for fun, I guess.

Many, many people have posted in the wrong Bug Reports section, had someone comment on it, and responded to say they just clicked on the link Support had given them in an email. Trying to report these threads and ask that they be moved to the appropriate section goes nowhere - the staff moderating the forums can't tell which post is about which game, and don't want to risk moving a thread they may have to subsequently move back. So the thread just sits around gradually collecting "omg wrong place noob"-style posts from random members of the community. (Seriously. Like, go to Bug Reports (Path of Exile 1) and read the responses even just on Page 1. It's a disaster.)





If I could ask one favour of the forum community, it would be this: when you see a thread that isn't currently where you think it belongs, please assume it is not the OP's circus.

Do folks posting here get things wrong? Absolutely! But forum moderation is muddying the waters on an industrial scale to the extent that it makes sense to default to assuming it is this that caused the problem. You won't always be correct - but I'd wager the assumption is going to be right more times than it would be wrong, which implicitly means things would improve if the moderators stopped moving threads at all - which is a sad commentary in-and-of itself.
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Last edited by Sarno#0493 on Dec 29, 2025, 5:05:16 AM
I think these specs were made when the game released over 10 years ago. Back then you could play it with 4GB RAM but you had to close all other programs and Windows 7 used up a lot less RAM by default than win 10 / 11 does. Because win 10/11 are a lot less optimized and have a lot more processes running in the background.
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Sogolon#3230 wrote:
I think these specs were made when the game released over 10 years ago. Back then you could play it with 4GB RAM but you had to close all other programs and Windows 7 used up a lot less RAM by default than win 10 / 11 does. Because win 10/11 are a lot less optimized and have a lot more processes running in the background.


PoE 2 was "released" a year ago. These are the specs for THAT game.
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