GGG; Kingsmarch (gold cost) - GGG doesn't seem to have any kindness for average players

This is nothing new, GGG never did respect the time of players.

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TechnicallBrains#4648 wrote:

clearly u didnt understand the topic then cuz i did mentioned "average player" u are far far from an average one...

I did understand, which is why i shared a setup that is doable by "average"/casual players.

Even on 8-mod T16, and only using blight heart + glittering scarabs, you can easily reach 50k+ gold per map (thats on a < 20c per map investment). Add some bismuth juice and a few other scarabs and it sky rockets.

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shardklaw#0080 wrote:

This is nothing new, GGG never did respect the time of players.

I genuinely feel like my time is valued in Path of Exile. I log in, engage in Activity X for a few hours, and am rewarded for that very effort. Engagement is recognized in a meaningful way because the game rewards you with loot for actually playing rather than handing it out arbitrarily.

Contrast this with something like Lost Ark where the game seems to actively discourage real play. Login bonuses and event rewards are distributed relentlessly, making genuine gameplay almost pointless. Free rewards allow progress in just five minutes, encouraging players to log in, claim their handouts, and log out. Similarly, some games push players to do the bare minimum just to hit daily milestones. That, to me, is the clearest example of a game that does not respect a player’s time.

Path of Exile takes the opposite approach. Even brief sessions, whether it is just thirty minutes for the so-called giga casuals who love to mention their grueling nine-to-five workdays, yield real progress. Most people work yet still carve out time to play and PoE respects that. There is no artificial cap. Playing more hours naturally brings greater rewards just as working longer hours in real life earns more money. Short sessions allow meaningful advancement while longer sessions unlock deeper enjoyment and virtually endless content. This is what thoughtful game design looks like, a system that values every player’s time instead of relying on limited activities or endless freebies that can be claimed in minutes and ultimately discourage further play.

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shardklaw#0080 wrote:

This is nothing new, GGG never did respect the time of players.

Uh if that’s the case why did they implement the async trade then? Even better why have any trade website at all? Ain’t those for saving time?

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

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TechnicallBrains#4648 wrote:

clearly u didnt understand the topic then cuz i did mentioned "average player" u are far far from an average one...

I did understand, which is why i shared a setup that is doable by "average"/casual players.

Even on 8-mod T16, and only using blight heart + glittering scarabs, you can easily reach 50k+ gold per map (thats on a < 20c per map investment). Add some bismuth juice and a few other scarabs and it sky rockets.

then ur overestimating average players cuz no average player is running those kind of maps

Make a gold farmer if you want gold. Can even sell services after that for many divs.

How do you even know you're the "average player"? Is it because you're counting yourself in that group so the game should be balanced around you? You're the average and therefore you should take priority?

Because reality check is this: you cannot know.

This forum isn't even representative of PoE's community. This kinda information you'll only find if you're working at GGG.

find out how to get more gold or use cheaper workers

if you expect to run tier 5 workers 24/7 while not putting in the work to keep that fueled then idk why you think it should be the norm for the game to be giving you stuff for nothing

I think it is this way because they dont want you to be able to effectively passively farm kingsmarch.

If you want to use boats and mappers you need to build an atlas just for gold.

I dont think they want you speccing into mechanics that make you rich and give less gold then being able to use kingsmarch to its fullest.

How would it feel if you could easily farm legion and harby without investing a single point in your atlas passive tree? Thats effectively what it would mean if gold costs were trivial.

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

How do you even know you're the "average player"? Is it because you're counting yourself in that group so the game should be balanced around you? You're the average and therefore you should take priority?

Because reality check is this: you cannot know.

This forum isn't even representative of PoE's community. This kinda information you'll only find if you're working at GGG.

cuz im playing with other people that are average players or below average, i simply have a little bit more time to play then time, but if it comes to videogames im an absolute fool as i got reading comprehension issues.

and peeps i play with are struggling to even understand many things of the game as the game doesnt give info in any way (thankfully somewhat improved in poe2)