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dear ggg:
the entire communtiy is complaining about ground loot and we get basicly nothing regarding that ? why ?

the game is about ground loot but it shifts more and more into just farming alot of gold and than translate that gold to currency, why !?
example: im lvl 96 and i got a single div drop in maps but i got idk .. prolly 20+ from klicking "send ship" you guys really want the game to be like that ?
like you literally farm money and than you go to the slot machine put all your money in and hope for divs ? and yeah u also need that money just to buy stuff (via insta trade) that already costs currency that you already paid with your gold for.

think about how stupid this is, you guys basicly even doubled down on that with the tree, you map and u get nothing and than u go to the slotmachine tree and hope for a 20d stack. (didnt get a single div from tree too btw)

like honestly i just feel like im only playing to have gold to send shipments because thats the only thing that drops some frequent divs.
thats so lame, like i really like the faulborns but mapping just feels off, i can run 10 maps and i dont drop a singel exiting item like a div or whatever.

i know the super omega high investing juicers still get some stuff, but the normal ppl doing some random alc and go strat .. i challange you guys to run a avarage build thats avarage clear speed and do some bad/mid alc and go strats that are about normal ground loot.
do 10 maps and than look at your loot and tell me thats ok and thats the way a rpg thats about killing stuff and looting them for exiting stuff should be like.

do you guys remember breach league ? breaches were fun and dropped a ton of loot, i remember breach league was my first league where i made good currency, just by doing the breaches, compare that to this league and find the error.



Nope. Not the entire community.
Don't want to be included in your shit posting.

Playing solo. Not playing T17s. Loot's fine.
Ohh, and I play Winter Orb.




after seeing your post here i decided to test my current opinion that loot is utterly trash and since i think u are playing ambush strat i went for that also. I bought 3 T17 for 2-3 div each fortress maps all above 400 currency rolled 3 containment scarabs for 4 div fully setup atlas for ambush strategy made video of 2 runs in case you are right or if your= provide some highly skilled comment that loot is fine after one more utterly disgusted experience of ,, VISIONS,,
My result after those maps is a loss of 8 divines because i managed to drop 2 valdo boxes in last map and i picked up most of the chaos or equivalent so confirmed loot is horific for me atleast and I am bored and rather close to uninstalling this game for a while again because when I see VISIONS of GGG managment from time to time i feel sorry for people that designed this AMAZING visualy experience of a league. I would express my self in more detailed version but the post would probably be removed how I feel of VISIONS and the results of it. If I was the investor I would make very quick and instant patch decisions in management after this amount of flame and drop off players. Game lost more players in 2 weeks than the usual drop off by a large margin and most of my friend list are dedicated players sitting in their HO


Kudos for doing a test. But a few counter points.
a) I did 1x T17 this entire league for my 6th map slot
b) I did indeed play ambush, but never once used a containment scarab because it puts too much pressure on the map for drops (most expensive was discernment).
c) you did 3 maps, a VERY low sample size for conclude anything. I did close to 600 maps of my strat, so while I had bad streaks with little loot, overall it evens out and you give yourself more opportunities to get lucky as well.

It's a grind game, and if you complete the atlas, find some low value scarabs and create an atlas tree to match, it's impossible to not make currency over time.
GGG, I really enjoy the league. Plz test and bring back the currency-rucksack-feature. But more importantly, try to bring ToTA back.
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Kudos for doing a test. But a few counter points.
a) I did 1x T17 this entire league for my 6th map slot
b) I did indeed play ambush, but never once used a containment scarab because it puts too much pressure on the map for drops (most expensive was discernment).
c) you did 3 maps, a VERY low sample size for conclude anything. I did close to 600 maps of my strat, so while I had bad streaks with little loot, overall it evens out and you give yourself more opportunities to get lucky as well.

It's a grind game, and if you complete the atlas, find some low value scarabs and create an atlas tree to match, it's impossible to not make currency over time.


What’s wrong with you? There’s a clear difference between saying “I prefer this” and “this is fine.”

You contradicted yourself by claiming you ran over 600 maps and dropped less than 1 Divine per map.

Listen carefully: in a properly juiced map, you should be dropping at least one Divine. If you’re not confident that this will happen, then something is wrong — maybe not with you, but definitely with the game.

We’ve had several leagues where strategies cost more than 3 Divines per map — sometimes even more — and they were still profitable.

You could’ve just said: “I prefer it this way. I’m fine with someone looting less than 80 Divines in 600 maps. That’s what I enjoy.” And that’s totally valid — everyone has their own preferences. But that doesn’t reflect the game we used to have.

There’s a huge difference between saying “I prefer this” and claiming “loot is fine.”
Did I make myself clear enough? You should understand this — it’s basic logic in any argument. And you’re in a forum, making arguments.

Honestly, I had decent expectations when I first saw your image — maybe you ran at most 100 T16.5/T17 maps and ended up with 78 Divines. But I don’t think you realize how terrible your results are when you scale that to anything beyond 100 maps. At 600 maps, it’s absurd.

And again — maybe you enjoy this current state, and that’s perfectly fine. But maybe you never truly experienced how PoE 1 used to be, or maybe you didn’t enjoy it back then — and that’s fine too. Just don’t ever say that loot is “fine” now. You might like it, but it’s not fine when compared to what the game used to offer.
Last edited by swib#1078 on Nov 14, 2025, 6:30:38 PM

Brother, you are doing an f tier strat thats actually s tier in this league because everything is nerfed. If you enjoy picking up alts and alchs to give to faustus then go have fun. Me personally, i dont doubt that you make currency, its not hard to do so. The issue is that we have to loot garbage. it feels terrible. Dont tell me picking up trash from the floor is more fun than picking up stacks of divs. Thats the end game. you juice your maps to oblivion, do insane hard content for a chance to have insane high rewards. Now what are players doing? picking up alts, chaos shards(literally), whit mirror gear? You think this is the good direction of poe1? This game? few leagues ago we were picking up x6 div stack from the ground, now we pick alts??? Who finds this fun and why?
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RaiZZeN3#3208 wrote:
So i was bored so i came to check the forum, see how people are doing, and reading some of these comments made me think, i've been sitting at the pc for about 2 hours with my character in the hideout, doing anything and everything else than running maps; i love the idea of playing poe, but when i go into poe i get this dreadful feeling when i'm about to run a map, it just feels off and irrelevant, like there's nothing to run a map for. I'm halfway in the process of making my int stacker, which should be really exciting to get the build up and running, but the more i think about this league as a whole the more i realise that there's no point, cause i'm already doing the hardest content and running t17s day and night. I get my build running and then what? there's nothing else to improve my character for, i'd maybe run 1-2 of the same maps, doing the maps in the same way maybe slightly faster and then just quit. My point? While the drops are bad and i'm complaing about that as well, myself and everyone else can get currency, but the problem isn't scarcity in currency itself, or atleast not the main problem, it's the lack of difficulty and interesting strategies. Last league you farmed stuff to get to t17 to get to abyss hoardes to get to blight explosions to get to alva or whatever else, this league it's strongboxes and nerfed blight that are waaay easier than before.

I'm impressed we even got to where we are, all you had to do is see the sentiment of the streamers and their communities, quin already quit, ruetoo has been complaining since day1 and for good reason, cutedog has gone from 12h streams to 6, to 4, to now playing arc raiders and whatever else, that alone should tell you the disappointing state of the league, so how come you're not changing anything? do you even play your own game? it feels like there's a huge disconnect between the game and the people in charge of it.

I don't even know anymore, the game's just in a bland and boring state, there needs to be a lot of changes, and the least they could do before they figure those changes is to revert to how it was last league... i mean it won't save this league, the majority of players already quit or are about to, but the direction we're going right now is not a good one at all.


it's going to be the perfect setup in 2-3 months: "guys, poe2 0.4 could have been so much better if we weren't bogged down by supporting legacy poe. looking at player retention, people don't want to play it anymore anyway so we are going to shut it down to free resources [which was the goal anyway]."
True, many people have this feeling that they are ruining it on purpose
I was not having too much fun in trade until i rolled to SSF. My homie Faustus still keeps whispering me of my great sales. 10/10. Would roll ssf again.
League is dead after 2 weeks
can we please get a fix for the button that visually disables grafts it hasn't worked since league launch. you enable it, it removes the hands, then reapplys them when u go into another area.
I am getting almost twice as many wombgifts doing a t7 essence farm then i am off a maven shaper/elder/conc strat, what the fuck did you do to ruin the drop rates so badly?

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