Kingsmarch shipments getting lost is toxic.

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

Why are you guys calling me a gambling addict just because I said there shouldn't be such risks associated with this content, I simply made a comparison to other core mechanics and said there is no reason why it should be like that

I know you guys like using the word FOMO to sound smart but this has nothing to do with it.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Honestly this is why I never send shipments that have more than 0% risk. Even at 0 there's still a chance you randomly lose a worker cus they "started a new life" or something. And you can randomly get a pirate boss too and if you decline it you lose all the rewards, and if you die in the fight you still lose your whole team. Kingsmarch already has enough risks, so I ain't gonna add more on top.

I just wait till I get a full team of rank 5 shippers if I'm gonna be sending 50 mil shipments, and avoid Kalguur since that one has risk at 50 mil even with a maxed out team for some weird reason.

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exsea#1724 wrote:

its as asmon/jsh says. if you punish the player enough, the will do their best to avoid punishment. and in this case players avoid engaging with the games mechanics.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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exsea#1724 wrote:

its as asmon/jsh says. if you punish the player enough, the will do their best to avoid punishment. and in this case players avoid engaging with the games mechanics.

oh please.....

You make a good point and then muddy it up with an extreme fomo point.

Punish the player enough, they will avoid punishment: YES that is true, for SOME players. That's why lesser shipments with ZERO risk of loss exists. If you still choose to completely avoid shipments because ALL YOU WANT is maximum rewards with MAXIMUM risk.....that is completely on you. Yet again. It's YOUR choice.


I don't think you understood the point those two streamers made: if it is ONLY punishment....that will be a problem. Take the one-portal situation in PoE 2: that has half the players up in arms because its an instant loss with no wiggle room. While I personally feel its still good design, I do understand that it is quite harsh.

But shipments that carry SOME risk when you send millions at a time shooting for a mirror shard or two? And complaining that the risk even exists? While at the same time completely writing off basically all other options available to you to gain rewards with NO risk at all? Pure, unadulterated, self-inflicted FOMO.

SMH. How does such a weak gamer culture exist....especially in a game like PoE that has ALWAYS been more punishing than other games of the same genre.

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

Yes you are describing the way it currently works good job, by posting in feedback section I am suggesting it shouldn't work like that in an ideal world because other core mechanics are not nearly as punishing and arguably more rewarding than settlers aside from tattoos and runegrafts do you understand my english now?

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

If you want to send big shipments yes it is forced indeed lol,

I would be curious to know the philosophy behind why running that particular content has to be punished though? We don't randomly lose blueprints/lifeforce/exchange coins or currency/azurite and whatever other currency players like to collect.

And who forces you to send big shipments? Oh that's right.....no one.

And in ALL OTHER CONTENT you absolutely run risk of heavy loss.

Juice a map too hard and you lose all your portals and all loot. Same with if you screw up and run an insta-brick mod.

Run a breachstone when you aren't capable of going fast enough and you lose the entire breachstone.

Die or get caught in a blueprint....bam its gone.



There's nothing "random" about CHOOSING to run high risk by sending large shipments.

Heavy loss = all your portals to ONE map? Bro don't even talk to me about this kind of "risk" lmao, I'm a HC SSF player, we lose our characters, you know nothing about risk son xD
Lose a breachstone is in no way comparable to losing a 20-25m shipment, dying in blueprint(LOL) again im SSFHC. Stop fanboying GGG thinking everything they do is perfect.

Also, sending a bunch of smol shipments adding up to 20mil doesnt even give you close to the same rewards as the 20m big one. Small shipments give jack sh!t

I don't know why you'd be advocating for players losing 100% of their shipments, what do you gain out of it? The risk mechanic should remain but losing all shipment makes no sense when there is nothing similarly punishing and outside player control happening in any other content.

Like I said farmed goods (long term gold investment), disenchanted dust and ores all take a lot of time to pile up and can easily be compared to any other content specific currency like harvest lifeforce/azurite/oils/rog coins/essences you name it... Imagine people randomly lost their entire stockpile of the aforementioned goods just because the devs thought it would make the game more realistic or some other obscure reason, people would go mad.